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    This is an interesting read about the deal to make the Parker-Fa fight happen.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/300126200/the-art-of-the-deal-how-the-joseph-parker-v-junior-fa-fight-came-about

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      Small date change for the Parker v Fa fight

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/joseph-parker-v-junior-fa-date-changed-for-heavyweight-boxings-fight-of-the-century/AYIYVH6RPXETB5TAAXGO2YB36M/

      Kiwi heavyweight boxers Joseph Parker and Junior Fa will have to wait slightly longer than expected to square off after their upcoming bout was pushed back.
      
      Initially scheduled to be held on Friday December 11, the 12-round clash will now take place on Saturday December 12 at Auckland's Spark Arena.
      
      The fight was originally scheduled as a Friday night affair due to the possibility of clashing with an All Blacks game on the Saturday.
      
      However, with the All Blacks schedule recently confirmed and the team playing their final game of the Tri-Nations in late November, the decision was made to move Fight of the Century, in association with Stonewood Homes, back a night.
      
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        I see the Usyk vs Chisora is on regular sky tomorrow morning.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          I see the Usyk vs Chisora is on regular sky tomorrow morning.

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          @Duluth Good to finally get some live boxing without getting charged PPV for average fights like this.

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            Tab not giving Fa much chance

            Obviously Parker should be favourite but Fa is a credible opponent

            parker fa odds.png

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              #397

              Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

              Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

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                Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

                Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

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                @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

                Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

                really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

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                  @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                  Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

                  Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

                  really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

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                  @mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:

                  @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                  Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

                  Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

                  really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

                  Yeah if going will be going for the schooners

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                  • JKJ JK

                    @mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:

                    @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                    Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

                    Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

                    really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

                    Yeah if going will be going for the schooners

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                    @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                    @mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:

                    @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                    Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

                    Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

                    really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

                    Yeah if going will be going for the schooners

                    there are better reasons?

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                    • JKJ JK

                      Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

                      Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

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                      #401

                      @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                      None of the lads seem too interested either.

                      The media noise has been strangely quiet. I assume DUCO are worried about a covid delay? Maybe it picks up later in the week

                      The only reason I knew this was on this weekend was because I try to follow MMA news/interviews. If Fa wasn't training out of CKB I probably wouldn't have known when it was on

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                        @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                        None of the lads seem too interested either.

                        The media noise has been strangely quiet. I assume DUCO are worried about a covid delay? Maybe it picks up later in the week

                        The only reason I knew this was on this weekend was because I try to follow MMA news/interviews. If Fa wasn't training out of CKB I probably wouldn't have known when it was on

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                        @duluth said in Boxing Thread:

                        @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                        None of the lads seem too interested either.

                        The media noise has been strangely quiet. I assume DUCO are worried about a covid delay? Maybe it picks up later in the week

                        The only reason I knew this was on this weekend was because I try to follow MMA news/interviews. If Fa wasn't training out of CKB I probably wouldn't have known when it was on

                        Yeah I think genuine concerns re Covid as event couldnt go ahead under level 2. They really need to get some hype going now

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          Tab not giving Fa much chance

                          Obviously Parker should be favourite but Fa is a credible opponent

                          parker fa odds.png

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                          @duluth Can't agree there sorry. Fa's been terrible as a pro where he has struggled badly against very low level journeymen. He has a poor gas tank, an average chin (as was shown against 44 year old Dominic Guinn), terrible footwork and doesn't carry a lot of power. If I were Fa and his team, I'd go for broke early as the longer the fight goes on, the weaker he'll get and Parker will get stronger.

                          Parker by mid rounds stoppage.

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                            @duluth Can't agree there sorry. Fa's been terrible as a pro where he has struggled badly against very low level journeymen. He has a poor gas tank, an average chin (as was shown against 44 year old Dominic Guinn), terrible footwork and doesn't carry a lot of power. If I were Fa and his team, I'd go for broke early as the longer the fight goes on, the weaker he'll get and Parker will get stronger.

                            Parker by mid rounds stoppage.

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                            @african-monkey

                            Sure, Parker deserves to be a healthy favourite. But $1.10 v $6.00?

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                              @duluth Can't agree there sorry. Fa's been terrible as a pro where he has struggled badly against very low level journeymen. He has a poor gas tank, an average chin (as was shown against 44 year old Dominic Guinn), terrible footwork and doesn't carry a lot of power. If I were Fa and his team, I'd go for broke early as the longer the fight goes on, the weaker he'll get and Parker will get stronger.

                              Parker by mid rounds stoppage.

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                              @african-monkey Has Fa been a fulltime professional or does he combine boxing with working a regular job? Training full time obviously makes a big difference if you have the natural talent/ability but has to be balanced against earning a regular income to feed your family.

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                                #406

                                Not a great fight so far.

                                Joe is winning, but Fa is making it as ugly as possible. I don't blame him though.

                                Fa should get a warning for all this clinching though. Parker is definitely frustrated with it.

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                                  Joe really isn't impressing.

                                  Last round now. It could be close if it goes to the cards.

                                  Fa has the crowd on his side.

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                                    Joe gets the win. Judges scored it 119-109, 115-113, 117-111. That 119-109 is pretty dodgy though.

                                    Parker needs to leave Barry. He's made no progress in years.

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                                    • HigginsH Higgins

                                      @african-monkey Has Fa been a fulltime professional or does he combine boxing with working a regular job? Training full time obviously makes a big difference if you have the natural talent/ability but has to be balanced against earning a regular income to feed your family.

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                                      @higgins He's been training full time for a while now at City kickboxing gym.

                                      Fa's spoiling tactic worked an absolute treat tbh. Anytime Parker tried to force the pace, Fa would clinch and got away with a lot of it when the ref should have docked a point for excessive holding. It was a Klitchko type performance where he'd stifle any attempt Parker would make at trying to force the pace and it frustrated Parker a lot.

                                      Parker's lack of a plan b was also annoying against a guy trying to survive out there. His average footwork was found wanting as he didn't look at changing angles or even look at slipping and countering, forcing Fa to throw the first punch. Instead, he did the same thing all fight which was try and get his jab off from front on only for the same thing to happen which was to get tied up and if that didn't work, throw the overhand right which also resulted in him getting tied up a lot and then allowing Fa to get his work done in the clinch. Being at the fight, I couldn't hear the instructions that Kevin Barry was giving but Parker either wasn't listening or Barry was giving poor instructions.

                                      A frustrating night for Parker against an obvious spoiler, but a win none the less and he moves on to bigger fights hopefully.

                                      Great night at the boxing, well worth coming up for it.

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                                        @higgins He's been training full time for a while now at City kickboxing gym.

                                        Fa's spoiling tactic worked an absolute treat tbh. Anytime Parker tried to force the pace, Fa would clinch and got away with a lot of it when the ref should have docked a point for excessive holding. It was a Klitchko type performance where he'd stifle any attempt Parker would make at trying to force the pace and it frustrated Parker a lot.

                                        Parker's lack of a plan b was also annoying against a guy trying to survive out there. His average footwork was found wanting as he didn't look at changing angles or even look at slipping and countering, forcing Fa to throw the first punch. Instead, he did the same thing all fight which was try and get his jab off from front on only for the same thing to happen which was to get tied up and if that didn't work, throw the overhand right which also resulted in him getting tied up a lot and then allowing Fa to get his work done in the clinch. Being at the fight, I couldn't hear the instructions that Kevin Barry was giving but Parker either wasn't listening or Barry was giving poor instructions.

                                        A frustrating night for Parker against an obvious spoiler, but a win none the less and he moves on to bigger fights hopefully.

                                        Great night at the boxing, well worth coming up for it.

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                                        @african-monkey Barry early was pretty much telling Joe to keep going with the bodywork which wasn't really working cos he wasn't getting enough shots in on Fa cos they spent half the time hugging it out.

                                        Mid stages he was telling him that Fa would be hurting from the bodywork and was berating Parker for getting caught when he relaxed coming out of the clinch.

                                        Latter part of the fight no idea, I got bored cos there wasn't much boxing going on.

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                                          Parker won easily without being in danger - why would he do anything differently?

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