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  • DuluthD Duluth

    I see the Usyk vs Chisora is on regular sky tomorrow morning.

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    @Duluth Good to finally get some live boxing without getting charged PPV for average fights like this.

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      Tab not giving Fa much chance

      Obviously Parker should be favourite but Fa is a credible opponent

      parker fa odds.png

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        Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

        Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

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        • JKJ JK

          Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

          Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

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          @jk said in Boxing Thread:

          Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

          Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

          really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

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            @jk said in Boxing Thread:

            Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

            Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

            really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

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            @mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:

            @jk said in Boxing Thread:

            Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

            Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

            really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

            Yeah if going will be going for the schooners

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            • JKJ JK

              @mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:

              @jk said in Boxing Thread:

              Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

              Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

              really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

              Yeah if going will be going for the schooners

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              @jk said in Boxing Thread:

              @mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:

              @jk said in Boxing Thread:

              Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

              Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

              really? A night on schooners at the boxing is great fun

              Yeah if going will be going for the schooners

              there are better reasons?

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              • JKJ JK

                Think Fa is definitely a bit over the odds too. Surely if Joe doesn't win he's finished (if he wasn't already)

                Got a handful of tickets (think 6 or 8 ) and not too sure if I will even go or not. None of the lads seem too interested either.

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                @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                None of the lads seem too interested either.

                The media noise has been strangely quiet. I assume DUCO are worried about a covid delay? Maybe it picks up later in the week

                The only reason I knew this was on this weekend was because I try to follow MMA news/interviews. If Fa wasn't training out of CKB I probably wouldn't have known when it was on

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                  None of the lads seem too interested either.

                  The media noise has been strangely quiet. I assume DUCO are worried about a covid delay? Maybe it picks up later in the week

                  The only reason I knew this was on this weekend was because I try to follow MMA news/interviews. If Fa wasn't training out of CKB I probably wouldn't have known when it was on

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                  @duluth said in Boxing Thread:

                  @jk said in Boxing Thread:

                  None of the lads seem too interested either.

                  The media noise has been strangely quiet. I assume DUCO are worried about a covid delay? Maybe it picks up later in the week

                  The only reason I knew this was on this weekend was because I try to follow MMA news/interviews. If Fa wasn't training out of CKB I probably wouldn't have known when it was on

                  Yeah I think genuine concerns re Covid as event couldnt go ahead under level 2. They really need to get some hype going now

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    Tab not giving Fa much chance

                    Obviously Parker should be favourite but Fa is a credible opponent

                    parker fa odds.png

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                    @duluth Can't agree there sorry. Fa's been terrible as a pro where he has struggled badly against very low level journeymen. He has a poor gas tank, an average chin (as was shown against 44 year old Dominic Guinn), terrible footwork and doesn't carry a lot of power. If I were Fa and his team, I'd go for broke early as the longer the fight goes on, the weaker he'll get and Parker will get stronger.

                    Parker by mid rounds stoppage.

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                      @duluth Can't agree there sorry. Fa's been terrible as a pro where he has struggled badly against very low level journeymen. He has a poor gas tank, an average chin (as was shown against 44 year old Dominic Guinn), terrible footwork and doesn't carry a lot of power. If I were Fa and his team, I'd go for broke early as the longer the fight goes on, the weaker he'll get and Parker will get stronger.

                      Parker by mid rounds stoppage.

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                      @african-monkey

                      Sure, Parker deserves to be a healthy favourite. But $1.10 v $6.00?

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                        @duluth Can't agree there sorry. Fa's been terrible as a pro where he has struggled badly against very low level journeymen. He has a poor gas tank, an average chin (as was shown against 44 year old Dominic Guinn), terrible footwork and doesn't carry a lot of power. If I were Fa and his team, I'd go for broke early as the longer the fight goes on, the weaker he'll get and Parker will get stronger.

                        Parker by mid rounds stoppage.

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                        @african-monkey Has Fa been a fulltime professional or does he combine boxing with working a regular job? Training full time obviously makes a big difference if you have the natural talent/ability but has to be balanced against earning a regular income to feed your family.

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                          Not a great fight so far.

                          Joe is winning, but Fa is making it as ugly as possible. I don't blame him though.

                          Fa should get a warning for all this clinching though. Parker is definitely frustrated with it.

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                            Joe really isn't impressing.

                            Last round now. It could be close if it goes to the cards.

                            Fa has the crowd on his side.

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                              Joe gets the win. Judges scored it 119-109, 115-113, 117-111. That 119-109 is pretty dodgy though.

                              Parker needs to leave Barry. He's made no progress in years.

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                                @african-monkey Has Fa been a fulltime professional or does he combine boxing with working a regular job? Training full time obviously makes a big difference if you have the natural talent/ability but has to be balanced against earning a regular income to feed your family.

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                                @higgins He's been training full time for a while now at City kickboxing gym.

                                Fa's spoiling tactic worked an absolute treat tbh. Anytime Parker tried to force the pace, Fa would clinch and got away with a lot of it when the ref should have docked a point for excessive holding. It was a Klitchko type performance where he'd stifle any attempt Parker would make at trying to force the pace and it frustrated Parker a lot.

                                Parker's lack of a plan b was also annoying against a guy trying to survive out there. His average footwork was found wanting as he didn't look at changing angles or even look at slipping and countering, forcing Fa to throw the first punch. Instead, he did the same thing all fight which was try and get his jab off from front on only for the same thing to happen which was to get tied up and if that didn't work, throw the overhand right which also resulted in him getting tied up a lot and then allowing Fa to get his work done in the clinch. Being at the fight, I couldn't hear the instructions that Kevin Barry was giving but Parker either wasn't listening or Barry was giving poor instructions.

                                A frustrating night for Parker against an obvious spoiler, but a win none the less and he moves on to bigger fights hopefully.

                                Great night at the boxing, well worth coming up for it.

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                                  @higgins He's been training full time for a while now at City kickboxing gym.

                                  Fa's spoiling tactic worked an absolute treat tbh. Anytime Parker tried to force the pace, Fa would clinch and got away with a lot of it when the ref should have docked a point for excessive holding. It was a Klitchko type performance where he'd stifle any attempt Parker would make at trying to force the pace and it frustrated Parker a lot.

                                  Parker's lack of a plan b was also annoying against a guy trying to survive out there. His average footwork was found wanting as he didn't look at changing angles or even look at slipping and countering, forcing Fa to throw the first punch. Instead, he did the same thing all fight which was try and get his jab off from front on only for the same thing to happen which was to get tied up and if that didn't work, throw the overhand right which also resulted in him getting tied up a lot and then allowing Fa to get his work done in the clinch. Being at the fight, I couldn't hear the instructions that Kevin Barry was giving but Parker either wasn't listening or Barry was giving poor instructions.

                                  A frustrating night for Parker against an obvious spoiler, but a win none the less and he moves on to bigger fights hopefully.

                                  Great night at the boxing, well worth coming up for it.

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                                  @african-monkey Barry early was pretty much telling Joe to keep going with the bodywork which wasn't really working cos he wasn't getting enough shots in on Fa cos they spent half the time hugging it out.

                                  Mid stages he was telling him that Fa would be hurting from the bodywork and was berating Parker for getting caught when he relaxed coming out of the clinch.

                                  Latter part of the fight no idea, I got bored cos there wasn't much boxing going on.

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                                    Parker won easily without being in danger - why would he do anything differently?

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                                      Parker won easily without being in danger - why would he do anything differently?

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                                      @godder Well Fa isn't really gonna be pushing for world titles and as we all know, there are levels in boxing and Parker hasn't shown anything to suggest that he'll be in contention to win another world title. He hasn't improved much since 2016 and is still showing the same problems he has had since his back to back losses in 2018.

                                      Kevin Barry has done a very good job with him, but he does need a change. I'd love to see him team up with Sugar Hill Steward at the Kronk gym.

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                                        @godder Well Fa isn't really gonna be pushing for world titles and as we all know, there are levels in boxing and Parker hasn't shown anything to suggest that he'll be in contention to win another world title. He hasn't improved much since 2016 and is still showing the same problems he has had since his back to back losses in 2018.

                                        Kevin Barry has done a very good job with him, but he does need a change. I'd love to see him team up with Sugar Hill Steward at the Kronk gym.

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                                        @african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:

                                        @godder Well Fa isn't really gonna be pushing for world titles and as we all know, there are levels in boxing and Parker hasn't shown anything to suggest that he'll be in contention to win another world title. He hasn't improved much since 2016 and is still showing the same problems he has had since his back to back losses in 2018.

                                        Kevin Barry has done a very good job with him, but he does need a change. I'd love to see him team up with Sugar Hill Steward at the Kronk gym.

                                        I think they will try and get a few more pay days in ,and milk what they can out of the sport, a chisora , a Usyk , that type of fight ,

                                        But I agree , any more world titles is fantasy talk ,

                                        That over hand right , looks horrible with nothing on it , not sure whats going on there , is that the elbow he had surgery on ?

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                                          @african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:

                                          @godder Well Fa isn't really gonna be pushing for world titles and as we all know, there are levels in boxing and Parker hasn't shown anything to suggest that he'll be in contention to win another world title. He hasn't improved much since 2016 and is still showing the same problems he has had since his back to back losses in 2018.

                                          Kevin Barry has done a very good job with him, but he does need a change. I'd love to see him team up with Sugar Hill Steward at the Kronk gym.

                                          I think they will try and get a few more pay days in ,and milk what they can out of the sport, a chisora , a Usyk , that type of fight ,

                                          But I agree , any more world titles is fantasy talk ,

                                          That over hand right , looks horrible with nothing on it , not sure whats going on there , is that the elbow he had surgery on ?

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                                          @kiwiinmelb Yes it is and yes, it's more the fact that it's so telegraphed and that he doesn't look to set it up so the sting is always taken out of it.

                                          Funnily enough he's not that far away from another shot. He's ranked highly with a few orgs and just has to keep winning. Sadly, if he faces Chisora next, I wouldn't be surprised if he lost that too and Chisora always has and always will be nothing more than a gatekeeper. It should be an easy fight for Parker but yeah, the fire seems to be lacking a bit from him and I fear that he'll allow himself to get bullied around the ring when he shouldn't.

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