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  • M Mackerzzzz

    @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz Aidan Ross over Hodgman at this stage. I think it's close between Laulala and Ta'avao.

    Ok cheifo

    I kinda agree about Ross but over karl not Hogman.
    And Laulala has been way better Ta'avao

    I would get rid of Ofa not Nepo. Ofa needs to fix his discipline

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    Yeetyaah
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    @mackerzzzz I mean yeah they're both Chiefs players but tell me I'm wrong? They're both doing great and dominated the Blues scrum a couple of weeks ago.

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      I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

      I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

      Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

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      @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

      I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

      I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

      Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

      Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

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        Mackerzzzz
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        Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

        1. Joe Moody

        2. Codie Taylor

        3. Nepo Laulala

        4. Scott Barrett

        5. Sam Whitelock (c)

        6. Shannon Frizzell

        7. Dalton Papalii

        8. Ardie Savea

        9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

        10. Richie Mo'unga

        11. Caleb Clarke

        12. Jack Goodhue

        13. Anton Lenert-Brown

        14. Will Jordan

        15. Jordie Barrett

        16. Alex Hogman

        17. Afaso Aumua

        18. Tyrell Lomax

        19. Patrick Tuipulotu

        20. Akira Ioane

        21. Brad Webber

        22. Damian McKenzie

        23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

        If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

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        • M Machpants

          @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

          I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

          I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

          Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

          Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

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          #146

          @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

          @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

          I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

          I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

          Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

          Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

          I say no to beaudy and Tj becuase they will both be still in japan

          mo'unga has had flashes of brilliance, I just dont think he leads a team like mitch can. Although mitch is helped by some very good halfbacks down there

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          • M Mackerzzzz

            Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

            1. Joe Moody

            2. Codie Taylor

            3. Nepo Laulala

            4. Scott Barrett

            5. Sam Whitelock (c)

            6. Shannon Frizzell

            7. Dalton Papalii

            8. Ardie Savea

            9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

            10. Richie Mo'unga

            11. Caleb Clarke

            12. Jack Goodhue

            13. Anton Lenert-Brown

            14. Will Jordan

            15. Jordie Barrett

            16. Alex Hogman

            17. Afaso Aumua

            18. Tyrell Lomax

            19. Patrick Tuipulotu

            20. Akira Ioane

            21. Brad Webber

            22. Damian McKenzie

            23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

            If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

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            @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

            Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

            1. Joe Moody

            2. Codie Taylor

            3. Nepo Laulala

            4. Scott Barrett

            5. Sam Whitelock (c)

            6. Shannon Frizzell

            7. Dalton Papalii

            8. Ardie Savea

            9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

            10. Richie Mo'unga

            11. Caleb Clarke

            12. Jack Goodhue

            13. Anton Lenert-Brown

            14. Will Jordan

            15. Jordie Barrett

            16. Alex Hogman

            17. Afaso Aumua

            18. Tyrell Lomax

            19. Patrick Tuipulotu

            20. Akira Ioane

            21. Brad Webber

            22. Damian McKenzie

            23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

            If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

            I think this will be pretty darn close, if we go strongest. 1st XV for sure, Coles will be back up 2 maybe, not sure about Weber or Leceister

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            • M Mackerzzzz

              @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

              @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

              I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

              I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

              Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

              Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

              I say no to beaudy and Tj becuase they will both be still in japan

              mo'unga has had flashes of brilliance, I just dont think he leads a team like mitch can. Although mitch is helped by some very good halfbacks down there

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              Yeetyaah
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              #148

              @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

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              • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

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                @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

                @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

                I thought so, just not the Blues.

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                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                  @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

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                  @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

                  Yep he is available as far I have read.

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                    #151

                    will they give Frizzell more chances?

                    Guy is a beast at Super level, but struggles at International.

                    Lets not forget, surely Fozzies futures is riding on the next few test matches!

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      will they give Frizzell more chances?

                      Guy is a beast at Super level, but struggles at International.

                      Lets not forget, surely Fozzies futures is riding on the next few test matches!

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                      @taniwharugby don't we low-key want him to lose then? Would be a crime if razor isn't in the All Blacks coaching staff.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        will they give Frizzell more chances?

                        Guy is a beast at Super level, but struggles at International.

                        Lets not forget, surely Fozzies futures is riding on the next few test matches!

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                        @taniwharugby Yup, whether people like Akira or not, the guy is an enforcer with that extra bit of power to his game both on attack and defence. I'd also have Blackadder and Grace ahead of Frizell at test level. Grace is no number 8 from what I've seen but the potential is there as a 6 and both have a harder edge to their games than Frizell which is a must at test level (hopefully people are starting to realise this).

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                          I’m a frizzel fan but I think akira proved last season he deserves a few games on the trot so we can see how good he can be once really settled

                          Frizzel in at squad to keep the pressure on

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                            I’m a frizzel fan but I think akira proved last season he deserves a few games on the trot so we can see how good he can be once really settled

                            Frizzel in at squad to keep the pressure on

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                            @kiwiwomble Yeah don't get me wrong, Frizell is ok, but don't think that he's good enough to start at test level. Good enough to be around the squad.

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                              @kiwiwomble Yeah don't get me wrong, Frizell is ok, but don't think that he's good enough to start at test level. Good enough to be around the squad.

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                              #156

                              @african-monkey agreed, ive conceded he hadn’t stepped up in the black jersey like akira has shown he might

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @cgrant
                                Will never happen. I completely understand your logic but the big risk is that team doesn't click and loses to Italy .

                                A team that is perennial wooden spooners in the six nations playing away from home ?

                                Yeah nah

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                                @mn5
                                When you put it that way...

                                Still don't think they will chuck out an experimental side when they need their first choice players to play together too. If they can blood some players then I'm all for it but I don't think they learn a whole lot with a team filled with newbies even if they win comfortably.

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                                • M Mackerzzzz

                                  Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

                                  1. Joe Moody

                                  2. Codie Taylor

                                  3. Nepo Laulala

                                  4. Scott Barrett

                                  5. Sam Whitelock (c)

                                  6. Shannon Frizzell

                                  7. Dalton Papalii

                                  8. Ardie Savea

                                  9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

                                  10. Richie Mo'unga

                                  11. Caleb Clarke

                                  12. Jack Goodhue

                                  13. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                  14. Will Jordan

                                  15. Jordie Barrett

                                  16. Alex Hogman

                                  17. Afaso Aumua

                                  18. Tyrell Lomax

                                  19. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                  20. Akira Ioane

                                  21. Brad Webber

                                  22. Damian McKenzie

                                  23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

                                  If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

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                                  mariner4life
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                                  @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

                                  1. Joe Moody

                                  2. Codie Taylor

                                  3. Nepo Laulala

                                  4. Scott Barrett

                                  5. Sam Whitelock (c)

                                  6. Shannon Frizzell

                                  7. Dalton Papalii

                                  8. Ardie Savea

                                  9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

                                  10. Richie Mo'unga

                                  11. Caleb Clarke

                                  12. Jack Goodhue

                                  13. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                  14. Will Jordan

                                  15. Jordie Barrett

                                  16. Alex Hogman

                                  17. Afaso Aumua

                                  18. Tyrell Lomax

                                  19. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                  20. Akira Ioane

                                  21. Brad Webber

                                  22. Damian McKenzie

                                  23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

                                  If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

                                  I for one would like to commend the much maligned Super rugby coaches for their ability to turn players that not 8 months ago weren't good test players in to good test players.

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                                    Yeah can't say I see them selecting a squad with zero crusaders loosies.

                                    Hunt is a large no.

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                                      There are really very few players from outside last year's All Blacks squad putting their hand up and looking ready for selecting at international level.

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                                        Yeah can't say I see them selecting a squad with zero crusaders loosies.

                                        Hunt is a large no.

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                                        @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Yeah can't say I see them selecting a squad with zero crusaders loosies.

                                        Hunt is a large no.

                                        Who would you bring in then.

                                        And who for

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                                          There are really very few players from outside last year's All Blacks squad putting their hand up and looking ready for selecting at international level.

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          There are really very few players from outside last year's All Blacks squad putting their hand up and looking ready for selecting at international level.

                                          Yeah other than Lester Fianganuku and Folau fakatava would have been

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