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  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

    @mackerzzzz I don't think all 4 of the blues props make it. Nor Laumape and Bridge. As for Hunt, he had the game of his life against the Crusaders but last night he was terrible. You've also forgotten McKenzie who's been doing quite well this season.

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    @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz I don't think all 4 of the blues props make it. Nor Laumape and Bridge. As for Hunt, he had the game of his life against the Crusaders but last night he was terrible. You've also forgotten McKenzie who's been doing quite well this season.

    If you were going to get rid of some props who would you bring in to replace?

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    • F family man

      I think David havili has to start at 12,he offers something different,another playmaker to create things

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      @family-man said in All Blacks 2021:

      I think David havili has to start at 12,he offers something different,another playmaker to create things

      I actually agree but I can't imagine it happening

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        @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

        @mackerzzzz I don't think all 4 of the blues props make it. Nor Laumape and Bridge. As for Hunt, he had the game of his life against the Crusaders but last night he was terrible. You've also forgotten McKenzie who's been doing quite well this season.

        If you were going to get rid of some props who would you bring in to replace?

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        @mackerzzzz Aidan Ross over Hodgman at this stage. I think it's close between Laulala and Ta'avao.

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        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

          @mackerzzzz Aidan Ross over Hodgman at this stage. I think it's close between Laulala and Ta'avao.

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          @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

          @mackerzzzz Aidan Ross over Hodgman at this stage. I think it's close between Laulala and Ta'avao.

          Ok cheifo

          I kinda agree about Ross but over karl not Hogman.
          And Laulala has been way better Ta'avao

          I would get rid of Ofa not Nepo. Ofa needs to fix his discipline

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            @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

            @mackerzzzz Aidan Ross over Hodgman at this stage. I think it's close between Laulala and Ta'avao.

            Ok cheifo

            I kinda agree about Ross but over karl not Hogman.
            And Laulala has been way better Ta'avao

            I would get rid of Ofa not Nepo. Ofa needs to fix his discipline

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            @mackerzzzz I mean yeah they're both Chiefs players but tell me I'm wrong? They're both doing great and dominated the Blues scrum a couple of weeks ago.

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              I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

              I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

              Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

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              @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

              I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

              I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

              Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

              Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

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                Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

                1. Joe Moody

                2. Codie Taylor

                3. Nepo Laulala

                4. Scott Barrett

                5. Sam Whitelock (c)

                6. Shannon Frizzell

                7. Dalton Papalii

                8. Ardie Savea

                9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

                10. Richie Mo'unga

                11. Caleb Clarke

                12. Jack Goodhue

                13. Anton Lenert-Brown

                14. Will Jordan

                15. Jordie Barrett

                16. Alex Hogman

                17. Afaso Aumua

                18. Tyrell Lomax

                19. Patrick Tuipulotu

                20. Akira Ioane

                21. Brad Webber

                22. Damian McKenzie

                23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

                If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

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                  @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                  I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

                  I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

                  Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

                  Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

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                  @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                  I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

                  I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

                  Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

                  Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

                  I say no to beaudy and Tj becuase they will both be still in japan

                  mo'unga has had flashes of brilliance, I just dont think he leads a team like mitch can. Although mitch is helped by some very good halfbacks down there

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                  • M Mackerzzzz

                    Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

                    1. Joe Moody

                    2. Codie Taylor

                    3. Nepo Laulala

                    4. Scott Barrett

                    5. Sam Whitelock (c)

                    6. Shannon Frizzell

                    7. Dalton Papalii

                    8. Ardie Savea

                    9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

                    10. Richie Mo'unga

                    11. Caleb Clarke

                    12. Jack Goodhue

                    13. Anton Lenert-Brown

                    14. Will Jordan

                    15. Jordie Barrett

                    16. Alex Hogman

                    17. Afaso Aumua

                    18. Tyrell Lomax

                    19. Patrick Tuipulotu

                    20. Akira Ioane

                    21. Brad Webber

                    22. Damian McKenzie

                    23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

                    If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

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                    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

                    1. Joe Moody

                    2. Codie Taylor

                    3. Nepo Laulala

                    4. Scott Barrett

                    5. Sam Whitelock (c)

                    6. Shannon Frizzell

                    7. Dalton Papalii

                    8. Ardie Savea

                    9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

                    10. Richie Mo'unga

                    11. Caleb Clarke

                    12. Jack Goodhue

                    13. Anton Lenert-Brown

                    14. Will Jordan

                    15. Jordie Barrett

                    16. Alex Hogman

                    17. Afaso Aumua

                    18. Tyrell Lomax

                    19. Patrick Tuipulotu

                    20. Akira Ioane

                    21. Brad Webber

                    22. Damian McKenzie

                    23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

                    If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

                    I think this will be pretty darn close, if we go strongest. 1st XV for sure, Coles will be back up 2 maybe, not sure about Weber or Leceister

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                    • M Mackerzzzz

                      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                      I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

                      I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

                      Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

                      Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

                      I say no to beaudy and Tj becuase they will both be still in japan

                      mo'unga has had flashes of brilliance, I just dont think he leads a team like mitch can. Although mitch is helped by some very good halfbacks down there

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                      #148

                      @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

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                      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                        @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

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                        @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

                        I thought so, just not the Blues.

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                        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                          @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

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                          @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

                          Yep he is available as far I have read.

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                            will they give Frizzell more chances?

                            Guy is a beast at Super level, but struggles at International.

                            Lets not forget, surely Fozzies futures is riding on the next few test matches!

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              will they give Frizzell more chances?

                              Guy is a beast at Super level, but struggles at International.

                              Lets not forget, surely Fozzies futures is riding on the next few test matches!

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                              @taniwharugby don't we low-key want him to lose then? Would be a crime if razor isn't in the All Blacks coaching staff.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                will they give Frizzell more chances?

                                Guy is a beast at Super level, but struggles at International.

                                Lets not forget, surely Fozzies futures is riding on the next few test matches!

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                                @taniwharugby Yup, whether people like Akira or not, the guy is an enforcer with that extra bit of power to his game both on attack and defence. I'd also have Blackadder and Grace ahead of Frizell at test level. Grace is no number 8 from what I've seen but the potential is there as a 6 and both have a harder edge to their games than Frizell which is a must at test level (hopefully people are starting to realise this).

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                                  I’m a frizzel fan but I think akira proved last season he deserves a few games on the trot so we can see how good he can be once really settled

                                  Frizzel in at squad to keep the pressure on

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    I’m a frizzel fan but I think akira proved last season he deserves a few games on the trot so we can see how good he can be once really settled

                                    Frizzel in at squad to keep the pressure on

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                                    @kiwiwomble Yeah don't get me wrong, Frizell is ok, but don't think that he's good enough to start at test level. Good enough to be around the squad.

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                                      @kiwiwomble Yeah don't get me wrong, Frizell is ok, but don't think that he's good enough to start at test level. Good enough to be around the squad.

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                                      @african-monkey agreed, ive conceded he hadn’t stepped up in the black jersey like akira has shown he might

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @cgrant
                                        Will never happen. I completely understand your logic but the big risk is that team doesn't click and loses to Italy .

                                        A team that is perennial wooden spooners in the six nations playing away from home ?

                                        Yeah nah

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                                        @mn5
                                        When you put it that way...

                                        Still don't think they will chuck out an experimental side when they need their first choice players to play together too. If they can blood some players then I'm all for it but I don't think they learn a whole lot with a team filled with newbies even if they win comfortably.

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                                          Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

                                          1. Joe Moody

                                          2. Codie Taylor

                                          3. Nepo Laulala

                                          4. Scott Barrett

                                          5. Sam Whitelock (c)

                                          6. Shannon Frizzell

                                          7. Dalton Papalii

                                          8. Ardie Savea

                                          9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

                                          10. Richie Mo'unga

                                          11. Caleb Clarke

                                          12. Jack Goodhue

                                          13. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                          14. Will Jordan

                                          15. Jordie Barrett

                                          16. Alex Hogman

                                          17. Afaso Aumua

                                          18. Tyrell Lomax

                                          19. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                          20. Akira Ioane

                                          21. Brad Webber

                                          22. Damian McKenzie

                                          23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

                                          If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

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                                          @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

                                          1. Joe Moody

                                          2. Codie Taylor

                                          3. Nepo Laulala

                                          4. Scott Barrett

                                          5. Sam Whitelock (c)

                                          6. Shannon Frizzell

                                          7. Dalton Papalii

                                          8. Ardie Savea

                                          9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

                                          10. Richie Mo'unga

                                          11. Caleb Clarke

                                          12. Jack Goodhue

                                          13. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                          14. Will Jordan

                                          15. Jordie Barrett

                                          16. Alex Hogman

                                          17. Afaso Aumua

                                          18. Tyrell Lomax

                                          19. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                          20. Akira Ioane

                                          21. Brad Webber

                                          22. Damian McKenzie

                                          23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

                                          If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

                                          I for one would like to commend the much maligned Super rugby coaches for their ability to turn players that not 8 months ago weren't good test players in to good test players.

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