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All Blacks 2021

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    Mackerzzzz
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    Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

    1. Joe Moody

    2. Codie Taylor

    3. Nepo Laulala

    4. Scott Barrett

    5. Sam Whitelock (c)

    6. Shannon Frizzell

    7. Dalton Papalii

    8. Ardie Savea

    9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

    10. Richie Mo'unga

    11. Caleb Clarke

    12. Jack Goodhue

    13. Anton Lenert-Brown

    14. Will Jordan

    15. Jordie Barrett

    16. Alex Hogman

    17. Afaso Aumua

    18. Tyrell Lomax

    19. Patrick Tuipulotu

    20. Akira Ioane

    21. Brad Webber

    22. Damian McKenzie

    23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

    If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

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      @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

      I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

      I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

      Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

      Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

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      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

      @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

      I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

      I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

      Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

      Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

      I say no to beaudy and Tj becuase they will both be still in japan

      mo'unga has had flashes of brilliance, I just dont think he leads a team like mitch can. Although mitch is helped by some very good halfbacks down there

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      • M Mackerzzzz

        Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

        1. Joe Moody

        2. Codie Taylor

        3. Nepo Laulala

        4. Scott Barrett

        5. Sam Whitelock (c)

        6. Shannon Frizzell

        7. Dalton Papalii

        8. Ardie Savea

        9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

        10. Richie Mo'unga

        11. Caleb Clarke

        12. Jack Goodhue

        13. Anton Lenert-Brown

        14. Will Jordan

        15. Jordie Barrett

        16. Alex Hogman

        17. Afaso Aumua

        18. Tyrell Lomax

        19. Patrick Tuipulotu

        20. Akira Ioane

        21. Brad Webber

        22. Damian McKenzie

        23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

        If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

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        #147

        @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

        Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

        1. Joe Moody

        2. Codie Taylor

        3. Nepo Laulala

        4. Scott Barrett

        5. Sam Whitelock (c)

        6. Shannon Frizzell

        7. Dalton Papalii

        8. Ardie Savea

        9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

        10. Richie Mo'unga

        11. Caleb Clarke

        12. Jack Goodhue

        13. Anton Lenert-Brown

        14. Will Jordan

        15. Jordie Barrett

        16. Alex Hogman

        17. Afaso Aumua

        18. Tyrell Lomax

        19. Patrick Tuipulotu

        20. Akira Ioane

        21. Brad Webber

        22. Damian McKenzie

        23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

        If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

        I think this will be pretty darn close, if we go strongest. 1st XV for sure, Coles will be back up 2 maybe, not sure about Weber or Leceister

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        • M Mackerzzzz

          @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

          @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

          I think Hunt needs a look in he's actually marshaled the highlanders very well this season, with the danger of Connor G-Bachop and Josh Ioane

          I personally think he is the form flyhalf this season.

          Other than his kicking from the T he wasn't that bad vs the Chiefs

          Better than mo'unga? No way, different League. And on fire beaudy is a step up again, but he never gets the minutes there

          I say no to beaudy and Tj becuase they will both be still in japan

          mo'unga has had flashes of brilliance, I just dont think he leads a team like mitch can. Although mitch is helped by some very good halfbacks down there

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          Yeetyaah
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          #148

          @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

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          • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

            @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

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            @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

            @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

            I thought so, just not the Blues.

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            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

              @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

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              @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

              @mackerzzzz wasn't it made clear that Beauden is available for the AB's this year?

              Yep he is available as far I have read.

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                taniwharugby
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                #151

                will they give Frizzell more chances?

                Guy is a beast at Super level, but struggles at International.

                Lets not forget, surely Fozzies futures is riding on the next few test matches!

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                  will they give Frizzell more chances?

                  Guy is a beast at Super level, but struggles at International.

                  Lets not forget, surely Fozzies futures is riding on the next few test matches!

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                  @taniwharugby don't we low-key want him to lose then? Would be a crime if razor isn't in the All Blacks coaching staff.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    will they give Frizzell more chances?

                    Guy is a beast at Super level, but struggles at International.

                    Lets not forget, surely Fozzies futures is riding on the next few test matches!

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                    @taniwharugby Yup, whether people like Akira or not, the guy is an enforcer with that extra bit of power to his game both on attack and defence. I'd also have Blackadder and Grace ahead of Frizell at test level. Grace is no number 8 from what I've seen but the potential is there as a 6 and both have a harder edge to their games than Frizell which is a must at test level (hopefully people are starting to realise this).

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                      I’m a frizzel fan but I think akira proved last season he deserves a few games on the trot so we can see how good he can be once really settled

                      Frizzel in at squad to keep the pressure on

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                        I’m a frizzel fan but I think akira proved last season he deserves a few games on the trot so we can see how good he can be once really settled

                        Frizzel in at squad to keep the pressure on

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                        @kiwiwomble Yeah don't get me wrong, Frizell is ok, but don't think that he's good enough to start at test level. Good enough to be around the squad.

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                          @kiwiwomble Yeah don't get me wrong, Frizell is ok, but don't think that he's good enough to start at test level. Good enough to be around the squad.

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          #156

                          @african-monkey agreed, ive conceded he hadn’t stepped up in the black jersey like akira has shown he might

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                            @mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @cgrant
                            Will never happen. I completely understand your logic but the big risk is that team doesn't click and loses to Italy .

                            A team that is perennial wooden spooners in the six nations playing away from home ?

                            Yeah nah

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                            mofitzy_
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                            @mn5
                            When you put it that way...

                            Still don't think they will chuck out an experimental side when they need their first choice players to play together too. If they can blood some players then I'm all for it but I don't think they learn a whole lot with a team filled with newbies even if they win comfortably.

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                              Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

                              1. Joe Moody

                              2. Codie Taylor

                              3. Nepo Laulala

                              4. Scott Barrett

                              5. Sam Whitelock (c)

                              6. Shannon Frizzell

                              7. Dalton Papalii

                              8. Ardie Savea

                              9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

                              10. Richie Mo'unga

                              11. Caleb Clarke

                              12. Jack Goodhue

                              13. Anton Lenert-Brown

                              14. Will Jordan

                              15. Jordie Barrett

                              16. Alex Hogman

                              17. Afaso Aumua

                              18. Tyrell Lomax

                              19. Patrick Tuipulotu

                              20. Akira Ioane

                              21. Brad Webber

                              22. Damian McKenzie

                              23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

                              If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

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                              mariner4life
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                              @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)

                              1. Joe Moody

                              2. Codie Taylor

                              3. Nepo Laulala

                              4. Scott Barrett

                              5. Sam Whitelock (c)

                              6. Shannon Frizzell

                              7. Dalton Papalii

                              8. Ardie Savea

                              9. Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)

                              10. Richie Mo'unga

                              11. Caleb Clarke

                              12. Jack Goodhue

                              13. Anton Lenert-Brown

                              14. Will Jordan

                              15. Jordie Barrett

                              16. Alex Hogman

                              17. Afaso Aumua

                              18. Tyrell Lomax

                              19. Patrick Tuipulotu

                              20. Akira Ioane

                              21. Brad Webber

                              22. Damian McKenzie

                              23. Leicester Fainga'anuku

                              If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.

                              I for one would like to commend the much maligned Super rugby coaches for their ability to turn players that not 8 months ago weren't good test players in to good test players.

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                                Yeah can't say I see them selecting a squad with zero crusaders loosies.

                                Hunt is a large no.

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                                  There are really very few players from outside last year's All Blacks squad putting their hand up and looking ready for selecting at international level.

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                                    Yeah can't say I see them selecting a squad with zero crusaders loosies.

                                    Hunt is a large no.

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                                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Yeah can't say I see them selecting a squad with zero crusaders loosies.

                                    Hunt is a large no.

                                    Who would you bring in then.

                                    And who for

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                                      There are really very few players from outside last year's All Blacks squad putting their hand up and looking ready for selecting at international level.

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      There are really very few players from outside last year's All Blacks squad putting their hand up and looking ready for selecting at international level.

                                      Yeah other than Lester Fianganuku and Folau fakatava would have been

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                                        African Monkey
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                                        So who gets the 3rd halfback spot with Perenara away and Fakatava injured? Does anyone deserve it?

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                                          So who gets the 3rd halfback spot with Perenara away and Fakatava injured? Does anyone deserve it?

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                                          @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          So who gets the 3rd halfback spot with Perenara away and Fakatava injured? Does anyone deserve it?

                                          not really, most consistent probably Hall although he is 29, so not really looking forward?

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