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    Old Samurai Jack
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    Nah, Clarke's form was so bad he shouldn't have made the ABs at all let alone be in the starting Blues 15.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

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      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

      so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

      Caleb Clarke was poor for the Blues at the start of the season. Needs to prove form and fitness through the NPC before he can be considered for the ABs again.

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        These last posts are hilarious when you think about how Jordie has gone on the wing.

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          These last posts are hilarious when you think about how Jordie has gone on the wing.

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          @gt12 Has Jodie been selected for the wing?

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            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

            so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

            Caleb Clarke was poor for the Blues at the start of the season. Needs to prove form and fitness through the NPC before he can be considered for the ABs again.

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            @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

            so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

            Caleb Clarke was poor for the Blues at the start of the season. Needs to prove form and fitness through the NPC before he can be considered for the ABs again.

            How are his playmaking skills ?

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

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              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

              so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

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                @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

                I hope Roger has a good influence on him and helps him train Sheckloads.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                  so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

                  I hope Roger has a good influence on him and helps him train Sheckloads.

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                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                  so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

                  I hope Roger has a good influence on him and helps him train Sheckloads.

                  Downvote for the terrible dad joke

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                    so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

                    I hope Roger has a good influence on him and helps him train Sheckloads.

                    Downvote for the terrible dad joke

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                    nostrildamus
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                    #1872

                    @canefan pretty damn bad but in my defence I have worse.

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                      African Monkey
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                      #1873

                      Lol Clarke wasn't amazing for the Blues but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be. If anything, its a good lesson for him going forward.

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                        Lol Clarke wasn't amazing for the Blues but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be. If anything, its a good lesson for him going forward.

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                        @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:

                        Lol Clarke wasn't amazing for the Blues but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be. If anything, its a good lesson for him going forward.

                        Same thing happened to Reiko in 2020. He got injured and the "haters" remember it as being out of form.

                        Clarke had a misdiagnosed injury which he played through thinking he was fit. Even on one leg is better than Bridge.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                          He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

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                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                          He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

                          Because he covers 11 and ... ?

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                            He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

                            Because he covers 11 and ... ?

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                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                            He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

                            Because he covers 11 and ... ?

                            And 14 I hope.

                            We could axe one of Barrett or Dmac and have Jordie/midfielder and a wing on the bench and probably have much more impact.

                            If we start Beauden and axe Dmac, we could bring Jordie off the bench at 15 or midfield and have a weapon runner on the bench to come on later in the game. If Rieko starts on the wing, we could bring Jordan off the bench in a similar role, or if Jordan starts use Reece in that role.

                            I feel like our bench right now is an attempt for the coaches to not make choices between the four players they like.

                            With Havili there as well, we have heaps of fullback cover and plenty of playmakers, so we could use our bench to introduce some weapons and create some competition for spots that are not sewn up (wing, midfield, fullback).

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                              @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                              He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

                              Because he covers 11 and ... ?

                              And 14 I hope.

                              We could axe one of Barrett or Dmac and have Jordie/midfielder and a wing on the bench and probably have much more impact.

                              If we start Beauden and axe Dmac, we could bring Jordie off the bench at 15 or midfield and have a weapon runner on the bench to come on later in the game. If Rieko starts on the wing, we could bring Jordan off the bench in a similar role, or if Jordan starts use Reece in that role.

                              I feel like our bench right now is an attempt for the coaches to not make choices between the four players they like.

                              With Havili there as well, we have heaps of fullback cover and plenty of playmakers, so we could use our bench to introduce some weapons and create some competition for spots that are not sewn up (wing, midfield, fullback).

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                              @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                              So something like this:

                              9 Smith
                              10 Mo'unga
                              11 Ioane
                              12 Havili
                              13 ALB
                              14 Reece
                              15 J Barrett

                              21 TJP
                              22 B Barrett/DMac
                              23 Jordan/Clarke

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                So something like this:

                                9 Smith
                                10 Mo'unga
                                11 Ioane
                                12 Havili
                                13 ALB
                                14 Reece
                                15 J Barrett

                                21 TJP
                                22 B Barrett/DMac
                                23 Jordan/Clarke

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                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                So something like this:

                                9 Smith
                                10 Mo'unga
                                11 Ioane
                                12 Havili
                                13 ALB
                                14 Reece
                                15 J Barrett

                                21 TJP
                                22 B Barrett/DMac
                                23 Jordan/Clarke

                                That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

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                                  #1879

                                  Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

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                                    Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

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                                    Machpants
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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

                                    Lol, yeah right

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                      So something like this:

                                      9 Smith
                                      10 Mo'unga
                                      11 Ioane
                                      12 Havili
                                      13 ALB
                                      14 Reece
                                      15 J Barrett

                                      21 TJP
                                      22 B Barrett/DMac
                                      23 Jordan/Clarke

                                      That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

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                                      Chris
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                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                      So something like this:

                                      9 Smith
                                      10 Mo'unga
                                      11 Ioane
                                      12 Havili
                                      13 ALB
                                      14 Reece
                                      15 J Barrett

                                      21 TJP
                                      22 B Barrett/DMac
                                      23 Jordan/Clarke

                                      That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

                                      I think whoever is picked as the first choice 10 needs to keep starting as much as possible.
                                      The more a 10 starts the better he gets at running the teams systems etc.
                                      Changing 10's all the time disrupts the team developing IMO.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                        So something like this:

                                        9 Smith
                                        10 Mo'unga
                                        11 Ioane
                                        12 Havili
                                        13 ALB
                                        14 Reece
                                        15 J Barrett

                                        21 TJP
                                        22 B Barrett/DMac
                                        23 Jordan/Clarke

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                                        Chris
                                        wrote on last edited by Chris
                                        #1882

                                        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                        So something like this:

                                        9 Smith
                                        10 Mo'unga
                                        11 Ioane
                                        12 Havili
                                        13 ALB
                                        14 Reece
                                        15 J Barrett

                                        21 TJP
                                        22 B Barrett/DMac
                                        23 Jordan/Clarke

                                        Yeah that look's better,Much better balance with that 23,

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                                          Never heard of Roger T until recently.
                                          Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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