All Blacks 2021
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Lol Clarke wasn't amazing for the Blues but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be. If anything, its a good lesson for him going forward.
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Lol Clarke wasn't amazing for the Blues but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be. If anything, its a good lesson for him going forward.
@african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:
Lol Clarke wasn't amazing for the Blues but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be. If anything, its a good lesson for him going forward.
Same thing happened to Reiko in 2020. He got injured and the "haters" remember it as being out of form.
Clarke had a misdiagnosed injury which he played through thinking he was fit. Even on one leg is better than Bridge.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..
He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..
He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.
Because he covers 11 and ... ?
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..
He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.
Because he covers 11 and ... ?
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..
He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.
Because he covers 11 and ... ?
And 14 I hope.
We could axe one of Barrett or Dmac and have Jordie/midfielder and a wing on the bench and probably have much more impact.
If we start Beauden and axe Dmac, we could bring Jordie off the bench at 15 or midfield and have a weapon runner on the bench to come on later in the game. If Rieko starts on the wing, we could bring Jordan off the bench in a similar role, or if Jordan starts use Reece in that role.
I feel like our bench right now is an attempt for the coaches to not make choices between the four players they like.
With Havili there as well, we have heaps of fullback cover and plenty of playmakers, so we could use our bench to introduce some weapons and create some competition for spots that are not sewn up (wing, midfield, fullback).
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..
He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.
Because he covers 11 and ... ?
And 14 I hope.
We could axe one of Barrett or Dmac and have Jordie/midfielder and a wing on the bench and probably have much more impact.
If we start Beauden and axe Dmac, we could bring Jordie off the bench at 15 or midfield and have a weapon runner on the bench to come on later in the game. If Rieko starts on the wing, we could bring Jordan off the bench in a similar role, or if Jordan starts use Reece in that role.
I feel like our bench right now is an attempt for the coaches to not make choices between the four players they like.
With Havili there as well, we have heaps of fullback cover and plenty of playmakers, so we could use our bench to introduce some weapons and create some competition for spots that are not sewn up (wing, midfield, fullback).
@gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).
So something like this:
9 Smith
10 Mo'unga
11 Ioane
12 Havili
13 ALB
14 Reece
15 J Barrett21 TJP
22 B Barrett/DMac
23 Jordan/Clarke -
@gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).
So something like this:
9 Smith
10 Mo'unga
11 Ioane
12 Havili
13 ALB
14 Reece
15 J Barrett21 TJP
22 B Barrett/DMac
23 Jordan/Clarke@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).
So something like this:
9 Smith
10 Mo'unga
11 Ioane
12 Havili
13 ALB
14 Reece
15 J Barrett21 TJP
22 B Barrett/DMac
23 Jordan/ClarkeThat looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.
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Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.
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Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.
Lol, yeah right
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).
So something like this:
9 Smith
10 Mo'unga
11 Ioane
12 Havili
13 ALB
14 Reece
15 J Barrett21 TJP
22 B Barrett/DMac
23 Jordan/ClarkeThat looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).
So something like this:
9 Smith
10 Mo'unga
11 Ioane
12 Havili
13 ALB
14 Reece
15 J Barrett21 TJP
22 B Barrett/DMac
23 Jordan/ClarkeThat looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.
I think whoever is picked as the first choice 10 needs to keep starting as much as possible.
The more a 10 starts the better he gets at running the teams systems etc.
Changing 10's all the time disrupts the team developing IMO. -
@gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).
So something like this:
9 Smith
10 Mo'unga
11 Ioane
12 Havili
13 ALB
14 Reece
15 J Barrett21 TJP
22 B Barrett/DMac
23 Jordan/Clarke@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).
So something like this:
9 Smith
10 Mo'unga
11 Ioane
12 Havili
13 ALB
14 Reece
15 J Barrett21 TJP
22 B Barrett/DMac
23 Jordan/ClarkeYeah that look's better,Much better balance with that 23,
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Never heard of Roger T until recently.
Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS?? -
People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions
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People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions
SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield
RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.
Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions
SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield
RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.
Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions
SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield
RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.
Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.
And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?
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People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions
He also will be almost 31 come WC time,
Old for a winger now a days.
Unless he is moved to the MF he may struggle to make it. -
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions
SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield
RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.
Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.
And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?
@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:
And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?
Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.
RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:
And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?
Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.
RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:
And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?
Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.
RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.
RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:
And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?
Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.
RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.
RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:
And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?
Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.
RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.
RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair
a different species?
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@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:
And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?
Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.
RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.
RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:
And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?
Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.
RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.
RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair
So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….
