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All Blacks 2021

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

    Lol, yeah right

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    • gt12G gt12

      @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

      @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

      So something like this:

      9 Smith
      10 Mo'unga
      11 Ioane
      12 Havili
      13 ALB
      14 Reece
      15 J Barrett

      21 TJP
      22 B Barrett/DMac
      23 Jordan/Clarke

      That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

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      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

      @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

      @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

      So something like this:

      9 Smith
      10 Mo'unga
      11 Ioane
      12 Havili
      13 ALB
      14 Reece
      15 J Barrett

      21 TJP
      22 B Barrett/DMac
      23 Jordan/Clarke

      That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

      I think whoever is picked as the first choice 10 needs to keep starting as much as possible.
      The more a 10 starts the better he gets at running the teams systems etc.
      Changing 10's all the time disrupts the team developing IMO.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

        So something like this:

        9 Smith
        10 Mo'unga
        11 Ioane
        12 Havili
        13 ALB
        14 Reece
        15 J Barrett

        21 TJP
        22 B Barrett/DMac
        23 Jordan/Clarke

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        #1882

        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

        @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

        So something like this:

        9 Smith
        10 Mo'unga
        11 Ioane
        12 Havili
        13 ALB
        14 Reece
        15 J Barrett

        21 TJP
        22 B Barrett/DMac
        23 Jordan/Clarke

        Yeah that look's better,Much better balance with that 23,

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          Never heard of Roger T until recently.
          Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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          • FrankF Frank

            Never heard of Roger T until recently.
            Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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            @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

            Never heard of Roger T until recently.
            Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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              People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

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              • M Machpants

                People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

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                @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

                RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

                Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                  People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                  SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

                  RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

                  Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                  People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                  SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

                  RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

                  Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

                  And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

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                  • M Machpants

                    People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

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                    @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                    People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                    He also will be almost 31 come WC time,
                    Old for a winger now a days.
                    Unless he is moved to the MF he may struggle to make it.

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                      People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                      SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

                      RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

                      Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

                      And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

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                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                      And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                      Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                      RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                        And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                        Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                        RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

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                        mariner4life
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                        #1890

                        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                        And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                        Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                        RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                        RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                          And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                          Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                          RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                          RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                          And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                          Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                          RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                          RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                          a different species?

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                            And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                            Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                            RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                            RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

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                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                            And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                            Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                            RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                            RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                            So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                              And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                              Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                              RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                              RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                              So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….

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                              mariner4life
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                              #1893

                              @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                              And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                              Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                              RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                              RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                              So Kata will be at 2023 and RTS not….

                              fuck that's actually really funny

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                                And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                                Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                                RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                                RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                                So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….

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                                canefan
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                                @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                                And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                                Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                                RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                                RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                                So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….

                                That's what happens when you entrust selections to this clown

                                Screenshot_20210818-130259_Chrome.jpg

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                                  mariner4life
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                                  #1895

                                  Cullen was cooked in 2003.

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                                    What is the tattoo on mo'unga arm? ...8/17 190 purple reign?

                                    baab657c-02e5-424f-855d-a4517c71dca2-image.jpeg

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                                      What is the tattoo on mo'unga arm? ...8/17 190 purple reign?

                                      baab657c-02e5-424f-855d-a4517c71dca2-image.jpeg

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                                      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      What is the tattoo on mo'unga arm? ...8/17 190 purple reign?

                                      baab657c-02e5-424f-855d-a4517c71dca2-image.jpeg

                                      Good to see Prince fans amongst the younger generations.

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        What is the tattoo on mo'unga arm? ...8/17 190 purple reign?

                                        baab657c-02e5-424f-855d-a4517c71dca2-image.jpeg

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                                        @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        What is the tattoo on mo'unga arm? ...8/17 190 purple reign?

                                        301175f6-272d-481a-a947-4b9ed94c82c6-image.png

                                        Clearly a wrestling fan

                                        https://network.mpxwrestling.com/purple-reign-2019/

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          Cullen was cooked in 2003.

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                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Cullen was cooked in 2003.

                                          The Paekakariki Express had slowed down a wee bit by 2003 that's for sure. But he was still the Hurricanes top try-scorer with eight that year. The Hurricanes made the Semis losing to a star-studded Crusaders team. The top try scorer in the whole competition in in 2003 was Doug Howlett with 12.

                                          https://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/LeadingTopScorers?comp_id=106&club_id=154

                                          Even well past his best, Cullen should have been selected for the 2003 AB Rugby World Cup Squad ahead of Ben Blair and certainly as the injury replacement for Ben Blair ahead of 20 year old Ben Atiga.

                                          I blame Deans.....

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