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All Blacks 2021

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

    So something like this:

    9 Smith
    10 Mo'unga
    11 Ioane
    12 Havili
    13 ALB
    14 Reece
    15 J Barrett

    21 TJP
    22 B Barrett/DMac
    23 Jordan/Clarke

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    #1878

    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

    So something like this:

    9 Smith
    10 Mo'unga
    11 Ioane
    12 Havili
    13 ALB
    14 Reece
    15 J Barrett

    21 TJP
    22 B Barrett/DMac
    23 Jordan/Clarke

    That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

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      #1879

      Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

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        Machpants
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        #1880

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

        Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

        Lol, yeah right

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        • gt12G gt12

          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

          @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

          So something like this:

          9 Smith
          10 Mo'unga
          11 Ioane
          12 Havili
          13 ALB
          14 Reece
          15 J Barrett

          21 TJP
          22 B Barrett/DMac
          23 Jordan/Clarke

          That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

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          #1881

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

          @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

          So something like this:

          9 Smith
          10 Mo'unga
          11 Ioane
          12 Havili
          13 ALB
          14 Reece
          15 J Barrett

          21 TJP
          22 B Barrett/DMac
          23 Jordan/Clarke

          That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

          I think whoever is picked as the first choice 10 needs to keep starting as much as possible.
          The more a 10 starts the better he gets at running the teams systems etc.
          Changing 10's all the time disrupts the team developing IMO.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

            So something like this:

            9 Smith
            10 Mo'unga
            11 Ioane
            12 Havili
            13 ALB
            14 Reece
            15 J Barrett

            21 TJP
            22 B Barrett/DMac
            23 Jordan/Clarke

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            Chris
            wrote on last edited by Chris
            #1882

            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

            @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

            So something like this:

            9 Smith
            10 Mo'unga
            11 Ioane
            12 Havili
            13 ALB
            14 Reece
            15 J Barrett

            21 TJP
            22 B Barrett/DMac
            23 Jordan/Clarke

            Yeah that look's better,Much better balance with that 23,

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              #1883

              Never heard of Roger T until recently.
              Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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              • FrankF Frank

                Never heard of Roger T until recently.
                Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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                canefan
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                #1884

                @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                Never heard of Roger T until recently.
                Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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                  Machpants
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                  #1885

                  People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

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                  • M Machpants

                    People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

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                    #1886

                    @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                    People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                    SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

                    RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

                    Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                      People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                      SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

                      RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

                      Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

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                      canefan
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1887

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                      People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                      SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

                      RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

                      Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

                      And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

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                      • M Machpants

                        People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

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                        #1888

                        @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                        People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                        He also will be almost 31 come WC time,
                        Old for a winger now a days.
                        Unless he is moved to the MF he may struggle to make it.

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                          People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

                          SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

                          RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

                          Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

                          And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

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                          Bovidae
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                          #1889

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                          And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                          Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                          RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                            And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                            Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                            RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

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                            mariner4life
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                            #1890

                            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                            And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                            Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                            RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                            RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                              And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                              Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                              RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                              RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

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                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                              And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                              Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                              RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                              RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                              a different species?

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                                And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                                Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                                RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                                RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

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                                ACT Crusader
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                                #1892

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                                And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                                Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                                RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                                RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                                So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                                  Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                                  RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                                  RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                                  So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….

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                                  #1893

                                  @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                                  Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                                  RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                                  RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                                  So Kata will be at 2023 and RTS not….

                                  fuck that's actually really funny

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                                    Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                                    RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                                    RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                                    So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….

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                                    canefan
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                                    #1894

                                    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

                                    Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

                                    RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

                                    RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

                                    So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….

                                    That's what happens when you entrust selections to this clown

                                    Screenshot_20210818-130259_Chrome.jpg

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                                      mariner4life
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                                      #1895

                                      Cullen was cooked in 2003.

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                                        Machpants
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                                        #1896

                                        What is the tattoo on mo'unga arm? ...8/17 190 purple reign?

                                        baab657c-02e5-424f-855d-a4517c71dca2-image.jpeg

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          What is the tattoo on mo'unga arm? ...8/17 190 purple reign?

                                          baab657c-02e5-424f-855d-a4517c71dca2-image.jpeg

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                                          @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          What is the tattoo on mo'unga arm? ...8/17 190 purple reign?

                                          baab657c-02e5-424f-855d-a4517c71dca2-image.jpeg

                                          Good to see Prince fans amongst the younger generations.

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