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    These last posts are hilarious when you think about how Jordie has gone on the wing.

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    • gt12G gt12

      These last posts are hilarious when you think about how Jordie has gone on the wing.

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      Old Samurai Jack
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      @gt12 Has Jodie been selected for the wing?

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        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

        so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

        Caleb Clarke was poor for the Blues at the start of the season. Needs to prove form and fitness through the NPC before he can be considered for the ABs again.

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        @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

        so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

        Caleb Clarke was poor for the Blues at the start of the season. Needs to prove form and fitness through the NPC before he can be considered for the ABs again.

        How are his playmaking skills ?

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

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          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

          so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

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            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

            so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

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            @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

            so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

            I hope Roger has a good influence on him and helps him train Sheckloads.

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

              so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

              I hope Roger has a good influence on him and helps him train Sheckloads.

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              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

              @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

              so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

              I hope Roger has a good influence on him and helps him train Sheckloads.

              Downvote for the terrible dad joke

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              • canefanC canefan

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300384621/all-blacks-caleb-clarke-eyes-return-for-auckland-instead-of-trip-to-perth

                I hope Roger has a good influence on him and helps him train Sheckloads.

                Downvote for the terrible dad joke

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                nostrildamus
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                @canefan pretty damn bad but in my defence I have worse.

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                  Lol Clarke wasn't amazing for the Blues but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be. If anything, its a good lesson for him going forward.

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                    Lol Clarke wasn't amazing for the Blues but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be. If anything, its a good lesson for him going forward.

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                    #1874

                    @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Lol Clarke wasn't amazing for the Blues but he wasn't anywhere near as bad as people are making him out to be. If anything, its a good lesson for him going forward.

                    Same thing happened to Reiko in 2020. He got injured and the "haters" remember it as being out of form.

                    Clarke had a misdiagnosed injury which he played through thinking he was fit. Even on one leg is better than Bridge.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                      He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

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                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                      He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

                      Because he covers 11 and ... ?

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                        He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

                        Because he covers 11 and ... ?

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                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                        He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

                        Because he covers 11 and ... ?

                        And 14 I hope.

                        We could axe one of Barrett or Dmac and have Jordie/midfielder and a wing on the bench and probably have much more impact.

                        If we start Beauden and axe Dmac, we could bring Jordie off the bench at 15 or midfield and have a weapon runner on the bench to come on later in the game. If Rieko starts on the wing, we could bring Jordan off the bench in a similar role, or if Jordan starts use Reece in that role.

                        I feel like our bench right now is an attempt for the coaches to not make choices between the four players they like.

                        With Havili there as well, we have heaps of fullback cover and plenty of playmakers, so we could use our bench to introduce some weapons and create some competition for spots that are not sewn up (wing, midfield, fullback).

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..

                          He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.

                          Because he covers 11 and ... ?

                          And 14 I hope.

                          We could axe one of Barrett or Dmac and have Jordie/midfielder and a wing on the bench and probably have much more impact.

                          If we start Beauden and axe Dmac, we could bring Jordie off the bench at 15 or midfield and have a weapon runner on the bench to come on later in the game. If Rieko starts on the wing, we could bring Jordan off the bench in a similar role, or if Jordan starts use Reece in that role.

                          I feel like our bench right now is an attempt for the coaches to not make choices between the four players they like.

                          With Havili there as well, we have heaps of fullback cover and plenty of playmakers, so we could use our bench to introduce some weapons and create some competition for spots that are not sewn up (wing, midfield, fullback).

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                          Bovidae
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                          #1877

                          @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                          So something like this:

                          9 Smith
                          10 Mo'unga
                          11 Ioane
                          12 Havili
                          13 ALB
                          14 Reece
                          15 J Barrett

                          21 TJP
                          22 B Barrett/DMac
                          23 Jordan/Clarke

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                            So something like this:

                            9 Smith
                            10 Mo'unga
                            11 Ioane
                            12 Havili
                            13 ALB
                            14 Reece
                            15 J Barrett

                            21 TJP
                            22 B Barrett/DMac
                            23 Jordan/Clarke

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                            gt12
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                            #1878

                            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                            So something like this:

                            9 Smith
                            10 Mo'unga
                            11 Ioane
                            12 Havili
                            13 ALB
                            14 Reece
                            15 J Barrett

                            21 TJP
                            22 B Barrett/DMac
                            23 Jordan/Clarke

                            That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

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                              #1879

                              Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

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                                Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

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                                Machpants
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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

                                Lol, yeah right

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                                • gt12G gt12

                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                  So something like this:

                                  9 Smith
                                  10 Mo'unga
                                  11 Ioane
                                  12 Havili
                                  13 ALB
                                  14 Reece
                                  15 J Barrett

                                  21 TJP
                                  22 B Barrett/DMac
                                  23 Jordan/Clarke

                                  That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

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                                  Chris
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                                  #1881

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                  So something like this:

                                  9 Smith
                                  10 Mo'unga
                                  11 Ioane
                                  12 Havili
                                  13 ALB
                                  14 Reece
                                  15 J Barrett

                                  21 TJP
                                  22 B Barrett/DMac
                                  23 Jordan/Clarke

                                  That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

                                  I think whoever is picked as the first choice 10 needs to keep starting as much as possible.
                                  The more a 10 starts the better he gets at running the teams systems etc.
                                  Changing 10's all the time disrupts the team developing IMO.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                    So something like this:

                                    9 Smith
                                    10 Mo'unga
                                    11 Ioane
                                    12 Havili
                                    13 ALB
                                    14 Reece
                                    15 J Barrett

                                    21 TJP
                                    22 B Barrett/DMac
                                    23 Jordan/Clarke

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                                    wrote on last edited by Chris
                                    #1882

                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

                                    So something like this:

                                    9 Smith
                                    10 Mo'unga
                                    11 Ioane
                                    12 Havili
                                    13 ALB
                                    14 Reece
                                    15 J Barrett

                                    21 TJP
                                    22 B Barrett/DMac
                                    23 Jordan/Clarke

                                    Yeah that look's better,Much better balance with that 23,

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                                      Never heard of Roger T until recently.
                                      Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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                                        Never heard of Roger T until recently.
                                        Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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                                        @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Never heard of Roger T until recently.
                                        Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

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                                          Machpants
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                                          People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

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