Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

2021 Rugby Championship

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
allblacks
421 Posts 57 Posters 24.1k Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • sparkyS Offline
    sparkyS Offline
    sparky
    wrote on last edited by sparky
    #153

    No sympathy for Rugby Australia. They showed their hand when they came out and declared the rest of the Rugby Championship had to be played in Perth when there were dozens of other options still on the table.

    This all shows an urgent need for NZR to distance itself from Rugby Australia a bit more. We have shackled ourselves to a corpse.

    D 1 Reply Last reply
    1
    • MajorPomM MajorPom

      @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

      Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

      Regardless of your views on Rennie (and I appreciate he's a bit marmite on TSF), that's really shit and poor form of NZ rugby if it's true.

      Generally agree with it shouldn't be played out publicly, but he is completely right to come down hard here.

      A Offline
      A Offline
      akan004
      wrote on last edited by akan004
      #154

      @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      @majorrage He probably has a point but he has a history of whinging to the media. Did the same before the Welly test last year too. Like someone else said earlier, am not a fan of this being played out publicly.

      Rennie is in Perth, with the rugby team he manages getting ready to play NZ in a week. The team finds out the match is off via social media, and not internally.

      Is it really a big deal as to how he found out about the announcement? He's the coach of the team and he always knew that the likelihood of the game taking place was slim at best. Whether he found out via social media or through the proper channels ultimately makes very little difference to him as a coach.

      I can understand RA being annoyed if the NZR didn't communicate this with them first before releasing the press release, as they are in daily negotiations with the NZR, but Rennie is just being a piston wristed gibbon about it imo.

      1 Reply Last reply
      2
      • OomPBO Offline
        OomPBO Offline
        OomPB
        wrote on last edited by
        #155

        Would be nice to have that 100th test in South Africa but with no crowds anywhere seem to be OK. Just appreciating Springboks playing again is good enough, even on the moon.

        We have a lot of UK players, playing there will make it easier to add players to the squad for injuries.

        P 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • sparkyS sparky

          No sympathy for Rugby Australia. They showed their hand when they came out and declared the rest of the Rugby Championship had to be played in Perth when there were dozens of other options still on the table.

          This all shows an urgent need for NZR to distance itself from Rugby Australia a bit more. We have shackled ourselves to a corpse.

          D Offline
          D Offline
          Derpus
          wrote on last edited by MajorPom
          #156

          @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

          Been banging the exact same horse from the other side for ages. Playing each other achieves nothing but a slow death.

          Not to mention you blokes are absolute bellends to deal with. 'Oh we have had our two (two?) Eden Park tests. That'll do us. We are too good to quarantine - you know, the exact thing we just made you do'.

          And then you fucking announce it via social media. Couldn't make it up. Hopefully RA pull their finger out and commit to a domestic comp following this last fuck you from NZRU.

          nzzpN gt12G MajorPomM taniwharugbyT juniorJ 5 Replies Last reply
          1
          • D Derpus

            @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

            Been banging the exact same horse from the other side for ages. Playing each other achieves nothing but a slow death.

            Not to mention you blokes are absolute bellends to deal with. 'Oh we have had our two (two?) Eden Park tests. That'll do us. We are too good to quarantine - you know, the exact thing we just made you do'.

            And then you fucking announce it via social media. Couldn't make it up. Hopefully RA pull their finger out and commit to a domestic comp following this last fuck you from NZRU.

            nzzpN Offline
            nzzpN Offline
            nzzp
            wrote on last edited by MajorPom
            #157

            @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

            Super has been the only reason Australian Rugby is competitive.

            But yes, our governance group are incompetent arseholes.

            D 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • D Derpus

              @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

              Been banging the exact same horse from the other side for ages. Playing each other achieves nothing but a slow death.

              Not to mention you blokes are absolute bellends to deal with. 'Oh we have had our two (two?) Eden Park tests. That'll do us. We are too good to quarantine - you know, the exact thing we just made you do'.

              And then you fucking announce it via social media. Couldn't make it up. Hopefully RA pull their finger out and commit to a domestic comp following this last fuck you from NZRU.

              gt12G Offline
              gt12G Offline
              gt12
              wrote on last edited by MajorPom
              #158

              @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

              Been banging the exact same horse from the other side for ages. Playing each other achieves nothing but a slow death.

              Not to mention you blokes are absolute bellends to deal with. 'Oh we have had our two (two?) Eden Park tests. That'll do us. We are too good to quarantine - you know, the exact thing we just made you do'.

              And then you fucking announce it via social media. Couldn't make it up. Hopefully RA pull their finger out and commit to a domestic comp following this last fuck you from NZRU.

              Um, what?

              The Bledisloe Cup will be played in New Zealand after the Government granted the Australian team an economic exemption to enter this country.
              
              The exemption allows quarantine-free travel for the Wallabies, based on the argument that a rugby test match generates up to $20 million in spending.
              

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-wallabies-get-economic-exemption-to-travel-to-nz-to-play-all-blacks-despite-covid-outbreaks/2C4BVYL4RK5Y556T6YCQOHCFBQ/

              1 Reply Last reply
              6
              • nzzpN nzzp

                @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

                Super has been the only reason Australian Rugby is competitive.

                But yes, our governance group are incompetent arseholes.

                D Offline
                D Offline
                Derpus
                wrote on last edited by
                #159

                @nzzp fucking bullshit. Our performances over the last 25 years have gotten worse year on year. Direct correlation.

                nzzpN gt12G 2 Replies Last reply
                0
                • D Derpus

                  @nzzp fucking bullshit. Our performances over the last 25 years have gotten worse year on year. Direct correlation.

                  nzzpN Offline
                  nzzpN Offline
                  nzzp
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #160

                  @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  @nzzp fucking bullshit. Our performances over the last 25 years have gotten worse year on year. Direct correlation.

                  respectfully, fella, that's not the question. How would you have gone without Super - that's the key question.

                  There's a reason SANZAAAAAR were consistently in the top 4 in the world - and it wasn't the Rugby Championship.

                  D 1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                    @nzzp fucking bullshit. Our performances over the last 25 years have gotten worse year on year. Direct correlation.

                    respectfully, fella, that's not the question. How would you have gone without Super - that's the key question.

                    There's a reason SANZAAAAAR were consistently in the top 4 in the world - and it wasn't the Rugby Championship.

                    D Offline
                    D Offline
                    Derpus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #161

                    @nzzp useless hypothetical at this point. SR no longer exists and getting flogged by you blokes won't make us better. Much better off going it alone.

                    And yes, Wallabies quarantined for two weeks in Wellington.

                    M 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • D Derpus

                      @nzzp fucking bullshit. Our performances over the last 25 years have gotten worse year on year. Direct correlation.

                      gt12G Offline
                      gt12G Offline
                      gt12
                      wrote on last edited by gt12
                      #162

                      @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                      @nzzp fucking bullshit. Our performances over the last 25 years have gotten worse year on year. Direct correlation.

                      You're not quite as good as you were in 1999-2000, but after that you are consistently in the top 2-8 in a cycle:

                      1999: Won it
                      2003: 2nd (Beaten finalist)
                      2007: Quarter finalist
                      2011: 3rd (lost to eventual champions in the semis)
                      2015: 2nd (Beaten finalist)
                      2019: Quarter finalist

                      With that record, you are probably the third best team in the World over the last 25 years. Your moaning isn't supported by the facts. Your team hasn't been as good as the ABs during that time, but we've had a golden era, as you did through the 1990s, and even then you went out in the quarters in 1995.

                      In fact, you're welcome, as playing us is probably what keeps you so strong.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      6
                      • D Derpus

                        @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

                        Been banging the exact same horse from the other side for ages. Playing each other achieves nothing but a slow death.

                        Not to mention you blokes are absolute bellends to deal with. 'Oh we have had our two (two?) Eden Park tests. That'll do us. We are too good to quarantine - you know, the exact thing we just made you do'.

                        And then you fucking announce it via social media. Couldn't make it up. Hopefully RA pull their finger out and commit to a domestic comp following this last fuck you from NZRU.

                        MajorPomM Offline
                        MajorPomM Offline
                        MajorPom
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #163

                        @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

                        Been banging the exact same horse from the other side for ages. Playing each other achieves nothing but a slow death.

                        Not to mention you blokes are absolute bellends to deal with. 'Oh we have had our two (two?) Eden Park tests. That'll do us. We are too good to quarantine - you know, the exact thing we just made you do'.

                        And then you fucking announce it via social media. Couldn't make it up. Hopefully RA pull their finger out and commit to a domestic comp following this last fuck you from NZRU.

                        Removed a little bit of the robustness of this post (play the ball, not the man), but I do agree with it entirely.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • D Derpus

                          @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

                          Been banging the exact same horse from the other side for ages. Playing each other achieves nothing but a slow death.

                          Not to mention you blokes are absolute bellends to deal with. 'Oh we have had our two (two?) Eden Park tests. That'll do us. We are too good to quarantine - you know, the exact thing we just made you do'.

                          And then you fucking announce it via social media. Couldn't make it up. Hopefully RA pull their finger out and commit to a domestic comp following this last fuck you from NZRU.

                          taniwharugbyT Offline
                          taniwharugbyT Offline
                          taniwharugby
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #164

                          @derpus wouldn't quarantining.require complete rescheduling?

                          The 2 games in nz were played when the were scheduled, just one location change, so the quarantine argument isn't identical

                          KiwiMurphK D 2 Replies Last reply
                          2
                          • D Derpus

                            @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

                            Been banging the exact same horse from the other side for ages. Playing each other achieves nothing but a slow death.

                            Not to mention you blokes are absolute bellends to deal with. 'Oh we have had our two (two?) Eden Park tests. That'll do us. We are too good to quarantine - you know, the exact thing we just made you do'.

                            And then you fucking announce it via social media. Couldn't make it up. Hopefully RA pull their finger out and commit to a domestic comp following this last fuck you from NZRU.

                            juniorJ Offline
                            juniorJ Offline
                            junior
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #165

                            @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                            @sparky The more we play you the worse Rugby does in Australia.

                            Been banging the exact same horse from the other side for ages. Playing each other achieves nothing but a slow death.

                            Not to mention you blokes are absolute bellends to deal with. 'Oh we have had our two (two?) Eden Park tests. That'll do us. We are too good to quarantine - you know, the exact thing we just made you do'.

                            And then you fucking announce it via social media. Couldn't make it up. Hopefully RA pull their finger out and commit to a domestic comp following this last fuck you from NZRU.

                            This is a slight thread hijack but who would you play instead? I am always interested to hear the answer because it’s not like the Wallabies would do any better against a full strength Boks or England (@Bones) and given the series against France C there’s no guarantee they’d do any better against the other NH sides. Which leaves basically Japan and the Island teams and, with all due respect, they’re not going to attract the crowds or the challenge to improve the situation.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • canefanC canefan

                              @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                              https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                              It wasn't our decision was it? WA closed its doors to us

                              boobooB Offline
                              boobooB Offline
                              booboo
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #166

                              @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              As expected, the whinger is having a whinge. Probably trying to take the attention away from his poor coaching record .

                              https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1428598817570451461?s=19

                              It wasn't our decision was it? WA closed its doors to us

                              Why let the truth get in the way of a good victimisation?

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @derpus wouldn't quarantining.require complete rescheduling?

                                The 2 games in nz were played when the were scheduled, just one location change, so the quarantine argument isn't identical

                                KiwiMurphK Online
                                KiwiMurphK Online
                                KiwiMurph
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #167

                                @taniwharugby said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @derpus wouldn't quarantining.require complete rescheduling?

                                The 2 games in nz were played when the were scheduled, just one location change, so the quarantine argument isn't identical

                                The original schedule was Auckland - Perth - Wellington. There has already been schedule changes.

                                taniwharugbyT 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @taniwharugby said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  @derpus wouldn't quarantining.require complete rescheduling?

                                  The 2 games in nz were played when the were scheduled, just one location change, so the quarantine argument isn't identical

                                  The original schedule was Auckland - Perth - Wellington. There has already been schedule changes.

                                  taniwharugbyT Offline
                                  taniwharugbyT Offline
                                  taniwharugby
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #168

                                  @kiwimurph ah ok...were the 1st 2 consecutive weekends originally?

                                  At any rate, Robinson is still a fool.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @derpus wouldn't quarantining.require complete rescheduling?

                                    The 2 games in nz were played when the were scheduled, just one location change, so the quarantine argument isn't identical

                                    D Offline
                                    D Offline
                                    Derpus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #169

                                    @taniwharugby No they wern't. NZRU asked RA if they could reschedule and they obliged.

                                    And no, WA didn't close the borders. If they did the premier of WA wouldn't be saying he will be looking to recover funds from ABs for cancelling.

                                    taniwharugbyT M antipodeanA 3 Replies Last reply
                                    0
                                    • D Derpus

                                      @nzzp useless hypothetical at this point. SR no longer exists and getting flogged by you blokes won't make us better. Much better off going it alone.

                                      And yes, Wallabies quarantined for two weeks in Wellington.

                                      M Offline
                                      M Offline
                                      Machpants
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #170

                                      @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      And yes, Wallabies quarantined for two weeks in Wellington.

                                      No they didn't, they arrived in the get home week NZers had, and didn;t have to quarantine. If they quarantined they wouldn't have played as they arrived within 2 weeks of the first Bledisloe. I'm not defending NZR executive, but don't lie

                                      KiwiMurphK 1 Reply Last reply
                                      5
                                      • M Machpants

                                        @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        And yes, Wallabies quarantined for two weeks in Wellington.

                                        No they didn't, they arrived in the get home week NZers had, and didn;t have to quarantine. If they quarantined they wouldn't have played as they arrived within 2 weeks of the first Bledisloe. I'm not defending NZR executive, but don't lie

                                        KiwiMurphK Online
                                        KiwiMurphK Online
                                        KiwiMurph
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #171

                                        @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        And yes, Wallabies quarantined for two weeks in Wellington.

                                        No they didn't, they arrived in the get home week NZers had, and didn;t have to quarantine. If they quarantined they wouldn't have played as they arrived within 2 weeks of the first Bledisloe. I'm not defending NZR executive, but don't lie

                                        I think @Derpus means 2020 - Wallabies quarantining prior to Bledisloe 1 2020 at the Cake Tin.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • D Derpus

                                          @taniwharugby No they wern't. NZRU asked RA if they could reschedule and they obliged.

                                          And no, WA didn't close the borders. If they did the premier of WA wouldn't be saying he will be looking to recover funds from ABs for cancelling.

                                          taniwharugbyT Offline
                                          taniwharugbyT Offline
                                          taniwharugby
                                          wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
                                          #172

                                          @derpus so they can get on a plane as planned for next weekends game, if thats the case, then NZR are bigger fuckwits than I thought

                                          A 1 Reply Last reply
                                          2
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search