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All Blacks 2021

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    I wish at least one of Sullivan and Plummer would go somewhere they can play 10 consistently as I see the most potential in them. Trask has not come on yet. Love needs a bit more time to build his influence on a game. Don't think Hunt or Josh will get any better.

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      Ardie has been named captain. Great choice if you ask me. 😀

      Let’s hope he starts at 7 and not 8 going forward though.

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        Knowler on the money again. Not!

        I always thought it was going to be one of Savea or BB.

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          Ardie was the obvious choice to me.

          Good pick.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            Ardie has been named captain. Great choice if you ask me. 😀

            Let’s hope he starts at 7 and not 8 going forward though.

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            @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

            Ardie has been named captain. Great choice if you ask me. 😀

            Let’s hope he starts at 7 and not 8 going forward though.

            Patrick McKendry: All Blacks set to make wrong choice for new captain

            He got it correct, says it's the wrong choice, but provides no reasons

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              haha

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                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300393637/ardie-savea-named-all-blacks-captain-for-rugby-championship

                They also confirmed that Brodie Retallick and Beauden Barrett would be vice-captains.

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                  Really pleased for Ardie. He's worked damn hard for a number of years now and has developed into a top player. He seems like a highly respected bloke among his peers too.

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                  • M Machpants

                    @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Ardie has been named captain. Great choice if you ask me. 😀

                    Let’s hope he starts at 7 and not 8 going forward though.

                    Patrick McKendry: All Blacks set to make wrong choice for new captain

                    He got it correct, says it's the wrong choice, but provides no reasons

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                    @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Ardie has been named captain. Great choice if you ask me. 😀

                    Let’s hope he starts at 7 and not 8 going forward though.

                    Patrick McKendry: All Blacks set to make wrong choice for new captain

                    He got it correct, says it's the wrong choice, but provides no reasons

                    Would be buried too often in rucks? Lacks the top two inches of genuinely taller players?

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                        Really happy for him.
                        Kind of an obvious choice based off form and experience.
                        Just hope he is 7 not 8 (but it looks like it won't happen)

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                            I have a feeling that BB will absolutely carve it up over the next few weeks. He knows he is the first pick 10 and will want to make a point. I look forward to seeing how he goes.

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                            • F Frye

                              You gotta love the people that decry the current playing squad as vastly inferior to years gone past but have obviously just memory blocked that era where Weepu, Cowan and Ellis were the best halfbacks in the country.

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                              @frye said in All Blacks 2021:

                              You gotta love the people that decry the current playing squad as vastly inferior to years gone past but have obviously just memory blocked that era where Weepu, Cowan and Ellis were the best halfbacks in the country.

                              I think our talent isn’t so bad ,

                              But from the outside looking in , our overall leadership doesn’t look as strong , well compared to the mccaw era anyway

                              Has a similar feel to the early 2000s to me , talent pool looks ok , not convinced yet on direction , but that could change , just unconvinced

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                                @frye said in All Blacks 2021:

                                You gotta love the people that decry the current playing squad as vastly inferior to years gone past but have obviously just memory blocked that era where Weepu, Cowan and Ellis were the best halfbacks in the country.

                                I think our talent isn’t so bad ,

                                But from the outside looking in , our overall leadership doesn’t look as strong , well compared to the mccaw era anyway

                                Has a similar feel to the early 2000s to me , talent pool looks ok , not convinced yet on direction , but that could change , just unconvinced

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                                @kiwiinmelb I think it's more the coaching team still haven't imposed a discernable style or plan yet, we are seeing glimpses but guess the disruptions are.affecting the ability to get some consistency

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                                  @kiwiinmelb I think it's more the coaching team still haven't imposed a discernable style or plan yet, we are seeing glimpses but guess the disruptions are.affecting the ability to get some consistency

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                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @kiwiinmelb I think it's more the coaching team still haven't imposed a discernable style or plan yet, we are seeing glimpses but guess the disruptions are.affecting the ability to get some consistency

                                  Yeah I’m prepared to get behind them , even with those doubts

                                  I mean wanting them to succeed is more beneficial than the other way around to me , I don’t see the point in wanting them to fail so you can say told ya so

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @kiwiinmelb I think it's more the coaching team still haven't imposed a discernable style or plan yet, we are seeing glimpses but guess the disruptions are.affecting the ability to get some consistency

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                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @kiwiinmelb I think it's more the coaching team still haven't imposed a discernable style or plan yet, we are seeing glimpses but guess the disruptions are.affecting the ability to get some consistency

                                    Or maybe they have and you haven’t seen it?
                                    Did Eddie show everyone the game he took England into the semi with? No. He put the pieces in place for that game though.
                                    I think we would be dumb to go away from our natural way of playing at speed and reading what is in front of us. Then we need to grow the experience to read what the opposition is bringing and adjust quickly. That’s what we have failed on in the past.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @kiwiinmelb I think it's more the coaching team still haven't imposed a discernable style or plan yet, we are seeing glimpses but guess the disruptions are.affecting the ability to get some consistency

                                      Or maybe they have and you haven’t seen it?
                                      Did Eddie show everyone the game he took England into the semi with? No. He put the pieces in place for that game though.
                                      I think we would be dumb to go away from our natural way of playing at speed and reading what is in front of us. Then we need to grow the experience to read what the opposition is bringing and adjust quickly. That’s what we have failed on in the past.

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                                      @crucial that may be true, but for the most part there is very little change since he took over, hopefully playing against SA will bring something out.

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                                        I actually think that in the Henry and early Hansen era one of the good things was the way the ABs could sometimes adjust their game. I remember there was a period where the Bok pack was starting to take on mythical proportions (kind of like the Boks now actually) and the ABs would just focus on smashing them up front, they'd do it with England quite often too (2019 aside obviously). Yet we always had the playing at speed and counter attacking in the back pocket.

                                        It's a bit worrying when we get too reactionary, although the reaction to 2009 kick fest worked out quite well in that we brought in a different style of wing for a couple of years.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          I actually think that in the Henry and early Hansen era one of the good things was the way the ABs could sometimes adjust their game. I remember there was a period where the Bok pack was starting to take on mythical proportions (kind of like the Boks now actually) and the ABs would just focus on smashing them up front, they'd do it with England quite often too (2019 aside obviously). Yet we always had the playing at speed and counter attacking in the back pocket.

                                          It's a bit worrying when we get too reactionary, although the reaction to 2009 kick fest worked out quite well in that we brought in a different style of wing for a couple of years.

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                                          @nepia similarly when we played Aus, we adjusted our game to make Pocock ineffective, granted the opposition has been limited under Fosters reign, I havent seen alot to suggest they have any game...which is what makes the SA game huge, hoping we see some tweaks.

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