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Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth)

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  • boobooB booboo

    @duluth said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @kirwan said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @shark said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @shark said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    @machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    Good point by Ozzie journo

    If there is one area of concern for the All Blacks arising from the match – apart from Beauden Barrett’s abominable place kicking – it is this. They were caught a few times, too slow to re-form close to the ruck, and while Foster acknowledged the strength of the Wallabies in targeting this area, and some potential mitigation around positional and personnel disruption, he duly recognised that this is an area where the All Blacks need to improve sharply.

    That presents a conundrum for Akira Ioane, who impressed again in the close channels during the first half. That’s exactly where All Black fans over the years have liked to see their number six; with his sleeves rolled up and his shoulders smacking hard into the opposition.

    Yet it was out wide where Ioane tore the game apart

    Akira and Ardie mean only one close in 'expert', when we really need two. If our hookers were like Marx, we'd be fine, but they are wide boys too.

    This is the point I made re Ioane. Impressive but let's see if he can grunt it up against SA.

    He might not get called on to do it, ABs have a loose forward and a hooker wide. Seems like Akira is the loose forward to go wide, might change Vs SA tho

    I'm trying to think of times when we've beaten SA using a wide ranging 6.....

    Akira was doing the wide ranging loosie role when he moved to 8. The rest of the time he plays six he's in tight doing the grunt work. So he was taking up Ardie's role when he went off.

    We beat them plenty of times with a wide ranging no 8 (K Read). In this team pattern the 8 plays more of the middle of field on attack and the 6 is out wide.

    Of course that's only on attack and only during phase play.

    I'm wondering if it really matters what number is on their back. More where they line up at set play.

    They'll probably line up traditionally at scrum 6, 7, 8. But lineouts there's scope for the configuration to be mixed up, I.e., if a loosie is used as a 2 jumper, or a 5 man lineout.

    Interestingly I don't recall seeing the hooker out wide doing that same sort if role (that Coles used to).

    Akira is a good assert out there though huh?

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    @booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

    Akira is a good assert out there though huh?

    he plays out wide for the blues too.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

      Akira is a good assert out there though huh?

      he plays out wide for the blues too.

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      @taniwharugby said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

      @booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

      Akira is a good assert out there though huh?

      he plays out wide for the blues too.

      Auckland has him at centre sometimes too which would be interesting to see at AB level. He'd create a lot of space for the wingers.

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        What was going on with the scrums? Murphy was penalising us constantly at the engage.

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        • TimT Tim

          What was going on with the scrums? Murphy was penalising us constantly at the engage.

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          @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

          What was going on with the scrums? Murphy.

          FIFY

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            Anyone still in doubt as to what SBW adds in commentary and opinion? 🙂

            https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1434699480184631298?s=20

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              I have to say it was a really unco action. Why would you need to extend your leg like that?
              Not saying it was deliberate just really weird

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              @crucial probably momentum as he was off balance. He was rotating backwards hence the awkward landing on his other leg. More reflexive than malicious. Thank God it was not for the whole game for the team. Unlucky for JB as he was playing well and offers something different than garden Gnome McKenzie.

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                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126293434/all-blacks-wild-stint-with-12-men-referees-missed-big-player-welfare-issue

                Any footage of when Taylor and Savea copped their head knocks?

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  Akira is being too unselfish today.

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                  @nepia I think he’s buying into the concept of team. Did you notice how he just turned around and walked back after the try was scored. He was just doing his job.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                    I'll ask again, who is the lady next to SBW? I don't think it's roz, unless she has a great tan

                    This is her, I think.

                    https://nsw.rugby/players/waratahs-women/sera-naiqama

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                    @bovidae I think she offered more insight than SBW. He came across as dense as a fence post.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126293434/all-blacks-wild-stint-with-12-men-referees-missed-big-player-welfare-issue

                      Any footage of when Taylor and Savea copped their head knocks?

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                      @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126293434/all-blacks-wild-stint-with-12-men-referees-missed-big-player-welfare-issue

                      Any footage of when Taylor and Savea copped their head knocks?

                      i just went back and looked on Stan, if saveas is what i think it is it seems to just be forgetting to move your face out of a tackle, he's only down for a phase or two and then get back up and plays for about a minute and a half until the next break in play including making a couple of tackles and making several rucks, couldnt even see what taylor did, just see him walk off behind the line to get treatment

                      savea.jpg

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @chimoaus said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                        Interesting stat that the Wallabies had more carries and metres made?

                        @nostrildamus made my point.

                        Often the better team will have less time in possession because they'll score earlier in possession, and the lesser team will throw waves of attack against a better D.

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                        @booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                        @chimoaus said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                        Interesting stat that the Wallabies had more carries and metres made?

                        @nostrildamus made my point.

                        Often the better team will have less time in possession because they'll score earlier in possession, and the lesser team will throw waves of attack against a better D.

                        And intercepts help.
                        I can just imagine TJP to Havili "Look, let's intercept all day long because I'm not match fit and we all know I can't pass for shit. Plus Weber is replacing Nugget for the first half."

                        Yup, Foster could do worse than getting me to do all the talking at the postmatch pressies.

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126293434/all-blacks-wild-stint-with-12-men-referees-missed-big-player-welfare-issue

                          Any footage of when Taylor and Savea copped their head knocks?

                          i just went back and looked on Stan, if saveas is what i think it is it seems to just be forgetting to move your face out of a tackle, he's only down for a phase or two and then get back up and plays for about a minute and a half until the next break in play including making a couple of tackles and making several rucks, couldnt even see what taylor did, just see him walk off behind the line to get treatment

                          savea.jpg

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                          @kiwiwomble said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                          @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126293434/all-blacks-wild-stint-with-12-men-referees-missed-big-player-welfare-issue

                          Any footage of when Taylor and Savea copped their head knocks?

                          i just went back and looked on Stan, if saveas is what i think it is it seems to just be forgetting to move your face out of a tackle, he's only down for a phase or two and then get back up and plays for about a minute and a half until the next break in play including making a couple of tackles and making several rucks, couldnt even see what taylor did, just see him walk off behind the line to get treatment

                          You know for sure, if the game starts stopping for these, certain teams will be faking like fuck, unless you make it compulsory off for HIA if game stopped for you

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                            @act-crusader said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                            @booboo Scott Barrett…

                            There's always one ...

                            Me and Fozzie on a unity ticket, Scooter finished the test on the blindside

                            😉

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                            @act-crusader said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                            @booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                            @act-crusader said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                            @booboo Scott Barrett…

                            There's always one ...

                            Me and Fozzie on a unity ticket, Scooter finished the test on the blindside

                            😉

                            And Oz scored almost immediately... the openside completely disappeared from any TV screens too!

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                              Squinting, pulling a face and gang signs. Drop him immediately.

                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1434461207516246021?t=LzFzwKGMp2La9OywjAxHkg&s=19

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                              • NTAN NTA

                                Loving our intercept count

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                                @nta said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                Loving our intercept count

                                Glad you can admire what you are good at 🙂

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @bovidae said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @bovidae said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  Coles (when fit) will be the hooker joining the squad.

                                  After 2 weeks quarantine

                                  I certainly wasn't implying he would be available immediately, just that they can't just bring over a new player to join the squad unless a MIQ spot in NZ is found for when they return. Foster might need to find a Kiwi hooker in Aust in an emergency.

                                  I think in an emergency Coles stays in NZ, and hooker #5 joins ABs. Unless the theoretical kiwi hooker in Oz is in QLD or WA, they still have 2 weeks quarantine. That's the real challenge of this tour, juggling injury replacements.

                                  Am available

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                                  @booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @bovidae said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @bovidae said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  Coles (when fit) will be the hooker joining the squad.

                                  After 2 weeks quarantine

                                  I certainly wasn't implying he would be available immediately, just that they can't just bring over a new player to join the squad unless a MIQ spot in NZ is found for when they return. Foster might need to find a Kiwi hooker in Aust in an emergency.

                                  I think in an emergency Coles stays in NZ, and hooker #5 joins ABs. Unless the theoretical kiwi hooker in Oz is in QLD or WA, they still have 2 weeks quarantine. That's the real challenge of this tour, juggling injury replacements.

                                  Am available

                                  Thinking out loud about this concept (not necessarily my own availability, which would of course depend on agreeing suitable financial terms), if perchance our playing stocks are severely affected by injury and we can't get NZ based players to join do we open up to NZ eligible players based in Aus, and even in Europe when we get there, given the 'unprecedented' circumstances. One off situation only.

                                  I.e., Thrush, Kahui, Abel here in Aus (I mean in desperate circumstances).

                                  That assumes they are actually in Aus of course, and in a State where they could travel to QLD without 2 week quarantine. But the return home wouldn't require NZ MIQ spaces.

                                  As I think about it it's probably more for the real specialist positions, where safety is a concern, i.e., front row. Anywhere else we'd just have to cover within the squad.

                                  Anyway, just spitballing.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    Squinting, pulling a face and gang signs. Drop him immediately.

                                    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1434461207516246021?t=LzFzwKGMp2La9OywjAxHkg&s=19

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                                    @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                    Squinting, pulling a face and gang signs. Drop him immediately.

                                    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1434461207516246021?t=LzFzwKGMp2La9OywjAxHkg&s=19

                                    (Sideways look at bone's avatar)..

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126293434/all-blacks-wild-stint-with-12-men-referees-missed-big-player-welfare-issue

                                      Any footage of when Taylor and Savea copped their head knocks?

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                                      @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126293434/all-blacks-wild-stint-with-12-men-referees-missed-big-player-welfare-issue

                                      Any footage of when Taylor and Savea copped their head knocks?

                                      this seems to be the taylor incident, took me a while to find as it just looks like a tackle but he rolls out of and lays down

                                      taylor.jpg

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/126224394/desperate-wallabies-hint-at-quade-cooper-recall-to-face-all-blacks

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                                          We won, Akira was brilliant but our weakness around the rucks won’t go unnoticed.

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