Aussie Pro Rugby
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The last few games have made me rethink the Giteau rule. The introduction of Kerevi and Cooper have arguably won us games, and at very least made us a much better side.
We're now in a purple patch of form. There's a buzz around the team. The Giteau rule needs to go to allow this to happen permanently.
Now I don't want it to be open slather, but we need to allow our top guys to come back for the international season. Yes it may impact Super Rugby but that is outweighed by a winning Wallaby team.
I'm also in favour of bringing in Skelton and co for the autumn internationals. We've got a unique opportunity to see what we've got with these guys, and if they have the same impact that Kerevi has had.
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
The last few games have made me rethink the Giteau rule. The introduction of Kerevi and Cooper have arguably won us games, and at very least made us a much better side.
Ironically, allowing your players to be selected from overseas makes them less attractive to employers, as they can go missing. The challenge is always integrating, looking after them (medically) and managing their workload with seasons out of alignment.
Obviously all aside from the weakening of local pathways and competitions.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
The last few games have made me rethink the Giteau rule. The introduction of Kerevi and Cooper have arguably won us games, and at very least made us a much better side.
Ironically, allowing your players to be selected from overseas makes them less attractive to employers, as they can go missing. The challenge is always integrating, looking after them (medically) and managing their workload with seasons out of alignment.
Obviously all aside from the weakening of local pathways and competitions.
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EXCLUSIVE Rugby Australia is on the cusp of the "biggest change since rugby went professional".
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@steven-harris i dont like it, i know aussie rugby is struggling but i dont like how top heavy NZ rugby is, sacrificing everything else for International rugby
Would we really want anyone thats been involved in RA over the last decade to be in charge of EVERTHING?
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@steven-harris i dont like it, i know aussie rugby is struggling but i dont like how top heavy NZ rugby is, sacrificing everything else for International rugby
Would we really want anyone thats been involved in RA over the last decade to be in charge of EVERTHING?
@kiwiwomble can understand your reasons , it could be a short term gain but on saying that it could have huge benefits ..
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@steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:
EXCLUSIVE Rugby Australia is on the cusp of the "biggest change since rugby went professional".
FULL DETAILS
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I can't see how this is tenable for SR coaches:
By moving to a centralised program, RA would similarly be able to influence where players end up across the five Super Rugby franchises. A case in point would be Jordan Petaia, where Wallabies selectors are keen to see him play fullback but, at this point, the prodigious talent has played predominantly on the wing or at outside centre with Jock Campbell instead preferred in the No. 15 jersey. But with Campbell not in the selection frame at the Wallabies, Petaia has been denied the chance to play in his preferred position, with injuries also playing a strong part in Brad Thorn’s decision making regarding selection. Last month, Thorn didn’t guarantee Petaia would play at fullback in 2022 and said they rated Campbell highly. -
@steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:
EXCLUSIVE Rugby Australia is on the cusp of the "biggest change since rugby went professional".
FULL DETAILS
: https://bit.ly/3Fh2qmQCentral contracting , this could be huge for Aussie Rugby
I can't see how this is tenable for SR coaches:
By moving to a centralised program, RA would similarly be able to influence where players end up across the five Super Rugby franchises. A case in point would be Jordan Petaia, where Wallabies selectors are keen to see him play fullback but, at this point, the prodigious talent has played predominantly on the wing or at outside centre with Jock Campbell instead preferred in the No. 15 jersey. But with Campbell not in the selection frame at the Wallabies, Petaia has been denied the chance to play in his preferred position, with injuries also playing a strong part in Brad Thorn’s decision making regarding selection. Last month, Thorn didn’t guarantee Petaia would play at fullback in 2022 and said they rated Campbell highly.@antipodean well they could just carry on business as usual and lose players offshore each year which further dissolves the quality of their Super teams .
What’s that saying , doing the same thing and expecting a different result .. -
@antipodean well they could just carry on business as usual and lose players offshore each year which further dissolves the quality of their Super teams .
What’s that saying , doing the same thing and expecting a different result ..@steven-harris I don't consider it an either or proposition, merely that that aspect is stupid beyond belief.
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@steven-harris I don't consider it an either or proposition, merely that that aspect is stupid beyond belief.
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@antipodean don't the All Blacks employ central contracting? why is it stupid for us?
@derpus said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean don't the All Blacks employ central contracting? why is it stupid for us?
I didn't say central contracting for Australian Rugby was stupid. Perhaps read what I quoted before responding.
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@derpus said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean don't the All Blacks employ central contracting? why is it stupid for us?
I didn't say central contracting for Australian Rugby was stupid. Perhaps read what I quoted before responding.
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@antipodean I mean, presumably its 'be happy with what you are given?' Without RA money none of the SR franchises even exist.
You ever tried being less of an insufferable cnut?
@derpus said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean I mean, presumably its 'be happy with what you are given?' Without RA money none of the SR franchises even exist.
You ever tried being less of an insufferable cnut?
I simply got sick of fuckwits who have a difficult time comprehending simple points.
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@derpus said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean I mean, presumably its 'be happy with what you are given?' Without RA money none of the SR franchises even exist.
You ever tried being less of an insufferable cnut?
I simply got sick of fuckwits who have a difficult time comprehending simple points.
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@antipodean the fuck you doing on the internet then?
@derpus said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean the fuck you doing on the internet then?
It's probably escaped your attention, but there are knowledgeable, pleasurable people on this site who aren't constantly fucking negative all the time.
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@derpus said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean the fuck you doing on the internet then?
It's probably escaped your attention, but there are knowledgeable, pleasurable people on this site who aren't constantly fucking negative all the time.
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@antipodean well you clearly aren't one of them haha
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...not jumping into the middle of that
@Derpus i dont like it because i think the central contracting is playing a part in what i consider a disconnect between grass roots rugby and the AB's, everything is top down (famously an unstable building technique)
Ironically its what i already see in aussie rugby, guys in my club not even knowing what time super games were on, they would finish playing and then go to the pub to watch the AFL, and i dont think this will change any of that
Also, we have famously bagged how RA has been run....do we want the same people in charge of everything?
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...not jumping into the middle of that
@Derpus i dont like it because i think the central contracting is playing a part in what i consider a disconnect between grass roots rugby and the AB's, everything is top down (famously an unstable building technique)
Ironically its what i already see in aussie rugby, guys in my club not even knowing what time super games were on, they would finish playing and then go to the pub to watch the AFL, and i dont think this will change any of that
Also, we have famously bagged how RA has been run....do we want the same people in charge of everything?
@kiwiwomble the disconnect is already happening over in NZ - has been for some time. Clubs can't get enough props and are drifting further from their provincial team. Certain schools are warehousing all the talent. Kids are picked for NPC before they finish high school. If you're not in the groove by the time you hit a certain age, you're unlikely to get into the top tiers anyway, so quit.
Throw in demographic changes, financial challenges (Saturday work is a killer) and the options people now have to spend their weekend, and you're looking at rugby being a tough game to support at times.
