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    Good attitude but let’s hope he doesn’t get that good.

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      https://twitter.com/kinson88/status/1443414190224330754?s=20

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        🚨 EXCLUSIVE 🚨

        Rugby Australia is on the cusp of the "biggest change since rugby went professional".

        FULL DETAILS 📝: https://bit.ly/3Fh2qmQ

        Central contracting , this could be huge for Aussie Rugby

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          🚨 EXCLUSIVE 🚨

          Rugby Australia is on the cusp of the "biggest change since rugby went professional".

          FULL DETAILS 📝: https://bit.ly/3Fh2qmQ

          Central contracting , this could be huge for Aussie Rugby

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          @steven-harris i dont like it, i know aussie rugby is struggling but i dont like how top heavy NZ rugby is, sacrificing everything else for International rugby

          Would we really want anyone thats been involved in RA over the last decade to be in charge of EVERTHING?

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            @steven-harris i dont like it, i know aussie rugby is struggling but i dont like how top heavy NZ rugby is, sacrificing everything else for International rugby

            Would we really want anyone thats been involved in RA over the last decade to be in charge of EVERTHING?

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            @kiwiwomble can understand your reasons , it could be a short term gain but on saying that it could have huge benefits ..

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              🚨 EXCLUSIVE 🚨

              Rugby Australia is on the cusp of the "biggest change since rugby went professional".

              FULL DETAILS 📝: https://bit.ly/3Fh2qmQ

              Central contracting , this could be huge for Aussie Rugby

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              @steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:

              🚨 EXCLUSIVE 🚨

              Rugby Australia is on the cusp of the "biggest change since rugby went professional".

              FULL DETAILS 📝: https://bit.ly/3Fh2qmQ

              Central contracting , this could be huge for Aussie Rugby

              I can't see how this is tenable for SR coaches:

              By moving to a centralised program, RA would similarly be able to influence where players end up across the five Super Rugby franchises.
              
              A case in point would be Jordan Petaia, where Wallabies selectors are keen to see him play fullback but, at this point, the prodigious talent has played predominantly on the wing or at outside centre with Jock Campbell instead preferred in the No. 15 jersey.
              
              But with Campbell not in the selection frame at the Wallabies, Petaia has been denied the chance to play in his preferred position, with injuries also playing a strong part in Brad Thorn’s decision making regarding selection.
              
              Last month, Thorn didn’t guarantee Petaia would play at fullback in 2022 and said they rated Campbell highly.
              
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                @steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:

                🚨 EXCLUSIVE 🚨

                Rugby Australia is on the cusp of the "biggest change since rugby went professional".

                FULL DETAILS 📝: https://bit.ly/3Fh2qmQ

                Central contracting , this could be huge for Aussie Rugby

                I can't see how this is tenable for SR coaches:

                By moving to a centralised program, RA would similarly be able to influence where players end up across the five Super Rugby franchises.
                
                A case in point would be Jordan Petaia, where Wallabies selectors are keen to see him play fullback but, at this point, the prodigious talent has played predominantly on the wing or at outside centre with Jock Campbell instead preferred in the No. 15 jersey.
                
                But with Campbell not in the selection frame at the Wallabies, Petaia has been denied the chance to play in his preferred position, with injuries also playing a strong part in Brad Thorn’s decision making regarding selection.
                
                Last month, Thorn didn’t guarantee Petaia would play at fullback in 2022 and said they rated Campbell highly.
                
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                @antipodean well they could just carry on business as usual and lose players offshore each year which further dissolves the quality of their Super teams .
                What’s that saying , doing the same thing and expecting a different result ..

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                  @antipodean well they could just carry on business as usual and lose players offshore each year which further dissolves the quality of their Super teams .
                  What’s that saying , doing the same thing and expecting a different result ..

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                  @steven-harris I don't consider it an either or proposition, merely that that aspect is stupid beyond belief.

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                    @steven-harris I don't consider it an either or proposition, merely that that aspect is stupid beyond belief.

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                    @antipodean don't the All Blacks employ central contracting? why is it stupid for us?

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                      @antipodean don't the All Blacks employ central contracting? why is it stupid for us?

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                      @derpus said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @antipodean don't the All Blacks employ central contracting? why is it stupid for us?

                      I didn't say central contracting for Australian Rugby was stupid. Perhaps read what I quoted before responding.

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                        @derpus said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @antipodean don't the All Blacks employ central contracting? why is it stupid for us?

                        I didn't say central contracting for Australian Rugby was stupid. Perhaps read what I quoted before responding.

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                        @antipodean I mean, presumably its 'be happy with what you are given?' Without RA money none of the SR franchises even exist.

                        You ever tried being less of an insufferable cnut?

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                          @antipodean I mean, presumably its 'be happy with what you are given?' Without RA money none of the SR franchises even exist.

                          You ever tried being less of an insufferable cnut?

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                          @derpus said in Aussie Rugby:

                          @antipodean I mean, presumably its 'be happy with what you are given?' Without RA money none of the SR franchises even exist.

                          You ever tried being less of an insufferable cnut?

                          I simply got sick of fuckwits who have a difficult time comprehending simple points.

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                            @derpus said in Aussie Rugby:

                            @antipodean I mean, presumably its 'be happy with what you are given?' Without RA money none of the SR franchises even exist.

                            You ever tried being less of an insufferable cnut?

                            I simply got sick of fuckwits who have a difficult time comprehending simple points.

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                            @antipodean the fuck you doing on the internet then?

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                              @antipodean the fuck you doing on the internet then?

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                              @derpus said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @antipodean the fuck you doing on the internet then?

                              It's probably escaped your attention, but there are knowledgeable, pleasurable people on this site who aren't constantly fucking negative all the time.

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                                @derpus said in Aussie Rugby:

                                @antipodean the fuck you doing on the internet then?

                                It's probably escaped your attention, but there are knowledgeable, pleasurable people on this site who aren't constantly fucking negative all the time.

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                                @antipodean well you clearly aren't one of them haha

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                                  @antipodean well you clearly aren't one of them haha

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                                  @derpus said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  @antipodean well you clearly aren't one of them haha

                                  Probably not.

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                                    ...not jumping into the middle of that

                                    @Derpus i dont like it because i think the central contracting is playing a part in what i consider a disconnect between grass roots rugby and the AB's, everything is top down (famously an unstable building technique)

                                    Ironically its what i already see in aussie rugby, guys in my club not even knowing what time super games were on, they would finish playing and then go to the pub to watch the AFL, and i dont think this will change any of that

                                    Also, we have famously bagged how RA has been run....do we want the same people in charge of everything?

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                                      ...not jumping into the middle of that

                                      @Derpus i dont like it because i think the central contracting is playing a part in what i consider a disconnect between grass roots rugby and the AB's, everything is top down (famously an unstable building technique)

                                      Ironically its what i already see in aussie rugby, guys in my club not even knowing what time super games were on, they would finish playing and then go to the pub to watch the AFL, and i dont think this will change any of that

                                      Also, we have famously bagged how RA has been run....do we want the same people in charge of everything?

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                                      @kiwiwomble the disconnect is already happening over in NZ - has been for some time. Clubs can't get enough props and are drifting further from their provincial team. Certain schools are warehousing all the talent. Kids are picked for NPC before they finish high school. If you're not in the groove by the time you hit a certain age, you're unlikely to get into the top tiers anyway, so quit.

                                      Throw in demographic changes, financial challenges (Saturday work is a killer) and the options people now have to spend their weekend, and you're looking at rugby being a tough game to support at times.

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                                        @kiwiwomble the disconnect is already happening over in NZ - has been for some time. Clubs can't get enough props and are drifting further from their provincial team. Certain schools are warehousing all the talent. Kids are picked for NPC before they finish high school. If you're not in the groove by the time you hit a certain age, you're unlikely to get into the top tiers anyway, so quit.

                                        Throw in demographic changes, financial challenges (Saturday work is a killer) and the options people now have to spend their weekend, and you're looking at rugby being a tough game to support at times.

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                                        @nta thats what im saying, and thats in NZ where previously a very strong NPC following, so following that track when you dont have that base level could be devastating

                                        @nta said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        @kiwiwomble Kids are picked for NPC before they finish high school.

                                        sadly they're being picked for super teams and skipping NPC.....

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                                          @nta thats what im saying, and thats in NZ where previously a very strong NPC following, so following that track when you dont have that base level could be devastating

                                          @nta said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          @kiwiwomble Kids are picked for NPC before they finish high school.

                                          sadly they're being picked for super teams and skipping NPC.....

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                                          @kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          sadly they're being picked for super teams and skipping NPC.....

                                          I was talking at the minimum level. At least they'll play NPC - here they get thrown into shit club rugby.

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