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@majorrage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
Rowling causing controversy again ….
Difficult to disagree.
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@majorrage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
Rowling causing controversy again ….
what a world we live in
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I do recall Greenwald discussing this with Martina Navratilova several years ago.
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Chalk the herald up as woke. Clear hatchet job on Rowling here.
Who most ppl agree with.
Why JK Rowling was snubbed from Harry Potter reunion
Author JK Rowling is a notable omission from the Harry Potter reunion.
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@majorrage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
Chalk the herald up as woke. Clear hatchet job on Rowling here.
Who most ppl agree with.
Why JK Rowling was snubbed from Harry Potter reunion
Author JK Rowling is a notable omission from the Harry Potter reunion.
A little under the weather but shall try and read in the a.m. when can see straight
But I suspect the gist is that along the "anyone who queries trans opinion is evil" dogma?
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@booboo said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
But I suspect the gist is that along the "anyone who queries trans opinion is evil" dogma?
The "case" against J K Rowling seems to be her view that a person can't determine their biological sex. Which is an utterly repugnant, hateful view according to some. In the real world she is, of course, right.
Sam, a 32-year-old man, was brought to the emergency department by his boyfriend. Sam reported an 8-hour history of severe (8 out of 10), intermittent lower abdominal pain. In triage, he had a blood pressure of 185/84 mm Hg and a heart rate of 67 beats per minute. The triage nurse noted that he was an obese man who appeared comfortable between bouts of pain. Sam told the nurse that he was a transgender man. His electronic medical record (EMR) indicated that he was male. ----Bedside ultrasonography was performed, confirming an advanced pregnancy with unclear presence of fetal cardiac activity. Sam was rapidly counseled regarding the findings and the need for an emergency caesarean delivery. He consented and was transferred to the operating room for further evaluation. In the operating room, no fetal heartbeat could be detected on ultrasound. Given the fetal death, Sam was transferred to a delivery suite where, moments later, he delivered a stillborn baby. -
@majorrage said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
Chalk the herald up as woke. Clear hatchet job on Rowling here.
Who most ppl agree with.
Why JK Rowling was snubbed from Harry Potter reunion
Author JK Rowling is a notable omission from the Harry Potter reunion.
Actually wasn't as bad as I thought. A couple of comments suggest how readers should feel.
I keep reading what she has written and tweeted and I just can't see anything I disagree with.
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Isnt the bigger point here, that it simply doesn't matter if people agree or disagree with what she says and thinks? Surely she has the right to her opinion, and cancelling her because a few or the majority disagree with that opinion, is just wrong in a liberal society.
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@voodoo said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
Isnt the bigger point here, that it simply doesn't matter if people agree or disagree with what she says and thinks? Surely she has the right to her opinion, and cancelling her because a few or the majority disagree with that opinion, is just wrong in a liberal society.
No the problem is that some, including the main cast, deem her comments as anti-trans & therefore transphobic which is unacceptable.
It’s insane. The cast can piss right off. All of them are nothing without her. Millions can act. One one person has written HP.
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I'm at the point now where I think "gender identity" is just a made up term for narcissists to give their personalities a name. It's just not a real thing.
There's a (very) small number of people who experience gender dysphoria which is a serious mental health issue. Outside of that there are males and females that display various masculine and feminine traits, and the more narcissistic of them have decided they don't fit into fiercely stereotypical definitions of male and female so have made up a new "gender identity" for themselves.
Your personality is influenced by, but not determined by your biological sex. That's really all there is to it.
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@no-quarter Gender identity is hardly a new thing, even? ... gender labels on a binary spectrum have existed at least since the Lesbian movement of the 60-70s e.g. from "High Femme" to "Stone Butch" (fwiw Gender Theory as an academic field of study is still rooted in the feminist movement I believe)
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Fyi as no-one has posted about the trans swimmer, Lia Thomas, in the US. Reasonable summary here?
Lia Thomas (US trans women, swimmer) breaking women's college records
Not sure in NZ (anyone know ... ??) but in the UK sport is an area specifically excluded from human rights legislation for trans people (legally the protected characteristic here is termed gender reassignment). Fairness is seen as the over-riding principle in sport ... hard to disagree
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@l_n_p said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
Fyi as no-one has posted about the trans swimmer, Lia Thomas, in the US. Reasonable summary here?
Lia Thomas (US trans women, swimmer) breaking women's college records
Not sure in NZ (anyone know ... ??) but in the UK sport is an area specifically excluded from human rights legislation for trans people (legally the protected characteristic here is termed gender reassignment). Fairness is seen as the over-riding principle in sport ... hard to disagree
Nice one Booboo. It's further back in this thread
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@catogrande said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
I like the term Futch. It seems almost onomatopoeiac.
Do I now go to Sapphic hell?
I just looked up Sapphic hell in the dictionary. Hannah Gadsby’s picture is beside it.
Edit. To be clear, I don’t care that she or anyone else is lesbian. I just don’t like her “comedy”
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@l_n_p said in Trans in sport / Laurel Hubbard:
@no-quarter Gender identity is hardly a new thing, even? ... gender labels on a binary spectrum have existed at least since the Lesbian movement of the 60-70s e.g. from "High Femme" to "Stone Butch" (fwiw Gender Theory as an academic field of study is still rooted in the feminist movement I believe)
Well yeah, all men and women display various masculine and feminine traits. Some of those traits are more typical among males, others more typical among females, but there is lots of overlap between the sexes. Hence your personality being influenced by, but not determined by your sex.
All the trans movement does is put all of the focus on whether you display typically male or female traits, when that shouldn't matter. We should be moving towards a society that doesn't judge people based on those traits, but we are going in the opposite direction. And what is beyond the pale is telling gender atypical kids that they are actually the opposite sex, which is a completely fucking bonkers thing to say to a child.
I maintain that all of these new "gender identities" are just made up nonsense (non-binary? Sorry what?) for people that want to feel special/unique.
Transgender debate, in sport, in general
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