Black Clash
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@chris-b said in Black Clash:
@mn5 It's the Has-beens vs the Might-have-beens.
Many of the rugby guys played under-age rep cricket - several made NZ rep teams.
Absolutely but Read and Jordan looked ridiculously capable with the bat. As if being bloody good rugby players wasn’t/isn’t enough !!??
@mn5 Read made an NZ schools team at cricket. Jordan played school cricket for Canterbury.
Jordie just missed the NZ U19 team. Ross and Boshier both NZ reps at cricket. Spice played for ND.
Tonuú played for Samoa.
McCullum and Devcich as ring-ins.
Not sure about the others, but I bet they were handy.
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@mn5 Read made an NZ schools team at cricket. Jordan played school cricket for Canterbury.
Jordie just missed the NZ U19 team. Ross and Boshier both NZ reps at cricket. Spice played for ND.
Tonuú played for Samoa.
McCullum and Devcich as ring-ins.
Not sure about the others, but I bet they were handy.
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@chris-b Boshier was the NZ U19 cricket captain, which I assume the commentators mentioned.
@bovidae said in Black Clash:
@chris-b Boshier was the NZ U19 cricket captain, which I assume the commentators mentioned.
Nah, they were too busy saying NMac looks like a Komodo dragon for the tenth time.
It came up as a screen caption though. -
@chris-b Boshier was the NZ U19 cricket captain, which I assume the commentators mentioned.
@bovidae Yeah - he's mentioned in my dispatches.
I ended up not watching much, but other years I've suggested that the commentators would do far better to do some research into the rugby players cricketing backgrounds and vice-versa - provide a bit of value - instead of relentless talking of shit.
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@mn5 Read made an NZ schools team at cricket. Jordan played school cricket for Canterbury.
Jordie just missed the NZ U19 team. Ross and Boshier both NZ reps at cricket. Spice played for ND.
Tonuú played for Samoa.
McCullum and Devcich as ring-ins.
Not sure about the others, but I bet they were handy.
@chris-b said in Black Clash:
@mn5 Read made an NZ schools team at cricket. Jordan played school cricket for Canterbury.
Jordie just missed the NZ U19 team. Ross and Boshier both NZ reps at cricket. Spice played for ND.
Tonuú played for Samoa.
McCullum and Devcich as ring-ins.
Not sure about the others, but I bet they were handy.
Yeah but ‘handy’ players should still be cannon fodder for the cricket team. I mean Bondy was absolute class, guys like Fleming, Vettori, Elliot, and Mills were very good as well.
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@chris-b said in Black Clash:
@mn5 Read made an NZ schools team at cricket. Jordan played school cricket for Canterbury.
Jordie just missed the NZ U19 team. Ross and Boshier both NZ reps at cricket. Spice played for ND.
Tonuú played for Samoa.
McCullum and Devcich as ring-ins.
Not sure about the others, but I bet they were handy.
Yeah but ‘handy’ players should still be cannon fodder for the cricket team. I mean Bondy was absolute class, guys like Fleming, Vettori, Elliot, and Mills were very good as well.
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@chris-b said in Black Clash:
@mn5 Read made an NZ schools team at cricket. Jordan played school cricket for Canterbury.
Jordie just missed the NZ U19 team. Ross and Boshier both NZ reps at cricket. Spice played for ND.
Tonuú played for Samoa.
McCullum and Devcich as ring-ins.
Not sure about the others, but I bet they were handy.
Yeah but ‘handy’ players should still be cannon fodder for the cricket team. I mean Bondy was absolute class, guys like Fleming, Vettori, Elliot, and Mills were very good as well.
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@chris-b said in Black Clash:
@mn5 Read made an NZ schools team at cricket. Jordan played school cricket for Canterbury.
Jordie just missed the NZ U19 team. Ross and Boshier both NZ reps at cricket. Spice played for ND.
Tonuú played for Samoa.
McCullum and Devcich as ring-ins.
Not sure about the others, but I bet they were handy.
Yeah but ‘handy’ players should still be cannon fodder for the cricket team. I mean Bondy was absolute class, guys like Fleming, Vettori, Elliot, and Mills were very good as well.
One of the noticeable things to me was a lot of skied shots by the rugby players that didn't fall to hand. When the cricket players were younger, fitter and faster, I suspect they would have got to some of those. Likewise the faster bowlers aren't as fast as they were in their 20s and 30s, so they aren't as scary to rep cricketers as they would have been in their primes.
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This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
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@bovidae said in Black Clash:
@chris-b Boshier was the NZ U19 cricket captain, which I assume the commentators mentioned.
Nah, they were too busy saying NMac looks like a Komodo dragon for the tenth time.
It came up as a screen caption though.@crucial said in Black Clash:
@bovidae said in Black Clash:
@chris-b Boshier was the NZ U19 cricket captain, which I assume the commentators mentioned.
Nah, they were too busy saying NMac looks like a Komodo dragon for the tenth time.
It came up as a screen caption though.Yeah look let’s be honest, that irked me too especially when it wasn’t funny the first time.
But I still reckon they’re great value on the wireless in between tunes on Hauraki.
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@mn5 Google tells me both Plummer and Love also played U19s cricket for NZ.
Which leaves McCaw. I'm not even going to Google him.
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@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
@nzbloke said in Black Clash:
@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell
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@chris-b said in Black Clash:
@mn5 Google tells me both Plummer and Love also played U19s cricket for NZ.
This is not correct .
Edit. Wait, no you are right. Love did play NZ U19s.
Assume you're correct re: Plummer then also.
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@rapido Source on Plummer is not as good as on Love.
They may have confused Plummer with his father, who captained the NZ U19s.
But, he was a gun schoolboy cricketer nonetheless.
@chris-b said in Black Clash:
@rapido Source on Plummer is not as good as on Love.
They may have confused Plummer with his father, who captained the NZ U19s.
But, he was a gun schoolboy cricketer nonetheless.
Did he bat or bowl ?
At least that ‘how to dad’ guy didn’t play although he’s better at cricket than comedy to be fair.
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@chris-b said in Black Clash:
@rapido Source on Plummer is not as good as on Love.
They may have confused Plummer with his father, who captained the NZ U19s.
But, he was a gun schoolboy cricketer nonetheless.
Did he bat or bowl ?
At least that ‘how to dad’ guy didn’t play although he’s better at cricket than comedy to be fair.
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There are a number of schoolboys who are good enough to play both 1st XV rugby and 1st XI cricket. The U19 WC is only every 2 years so I guess the NZ team plays Aust and other teams in those other years.
@bovidae said in Black Clash:
There are a number of schoolboys who are good enough to play both 1st XV rugby and 1st XI cricket. The U19 WC is only every 2 years so I guess the NZ team plays Aust and other teams in those other years.
Not often. NZC do like the ICC free ride of a fully paid for (with other people's money) U19 world cup. But dont do much U19s in between, if ever these days, 'too expensive'. Except for the last tournament in 2020, when coincidentally someone important's son was in that team. They played heaps of lead ups in 2019. Looks like Ruben Love benefited from that and got one of those series, but didnt make world cup.
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@bovidae said in Black Clash:
There are a number of schoolboys who are good enough to play both 1st XV rugby and 1st XI cricket. The U19 WC is only every 2 years so I guess the NZ team plays Aust and other teams in those other years.
Not often. NZC do like the ICC free ride of a fully paid for (with other people's money) U19 world cup. But dont do much U19s in between, if ever these days, 'too expensive'. Except for the last tournament in 2020, when coincidentally someone important's son was in that team. They played heaps of lead ups in 2019. Looks like Ruben Love benefited from that and got one of those series, but didnt make world cup.
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@nzbloke said in Black Clash:
@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@nzbloke said in Black Clash:
@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell
I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.
The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.
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@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@nzbloke said in Black Clash:
@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell
I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.
The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.
@rotated said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@nzbloke said in Black Clash:
@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell
I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.
The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.
Yeah and again, I know these guys are years past their best but there has to be some kind of gentleman’s agreement to make the games reasonably close ( as I think they all have been )
I’d have expected more of this to be honest, I wonder how fast Bond was actually bowling ?
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@rotated said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@nzbloke said in Black Clash:
@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell
I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.
The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.
Yeah and again, I know these guys are years past their best but there has to be some kind of gentleman’s agreement to make the games reasonably close ( as I think they all have been )
I’d have expected more of this to be honest, I wonder how fast Bond was actually bowling ?
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@rotated said in Black Clash:
@mn5 said in Black Clash:
@nzbloke said in Black Clash:
@crucial said in Black Clash:
This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.
This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.
Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell
I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.
The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.
Yeah and again, I know these guys are years past their best but there has to be some kind of gentleman’s agreement to make the games reasonably close ( as I think they all have been )
Doesn't Cricket always bat first in this and then Flemming has the hardest job of managing next 20 overs to make a specticle of it? He essentially determines the outcome
Or am I wrong?
