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    @crucial said in Black Clash:

    @bovidae said in Black Clash:

    @chris-b Boshier was the NZ U19 cricket captain, which I assume the commentators mentioned.

    Nah, they were too busy saying NMac looks like a Komodo dragon for the tenth time.
    It came up as a screen caption though.

    Yeah look let’s be honest, that irked me too especially when it wasn’t funny the first time.

    But I still reckon they’re great value on the wireless in between tunes on Hauraki.

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    @chris-b said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 Google tells me both Plummer and Love also played U19s cricket for NZ.

    This is not correct .

    Edit. Wait, no you are right. Love did play NZ U19s.

    Assume you're correct re: Plummer then also.

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    @nzbloke said in Black Clash:

    @crucial said in Black Clash:

    This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
    Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……

    Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.

    This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.

    Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell

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    @rapido Source on Plummer is not as good as on Love.

    They may have confused Plummer with his father, who captained the NZ U19s.

    But, he was a gun schoolboy cricketer nonetheless.

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    @chris-b said in Black Clash:

    @rapido Source on Plummer is not as good as on Love.

    They may have confused Plummer with his father, who captained the NZ U19s.

    But, he was a gun schoolboy cricketer nonetheless.

    Did he bat or bowl ?

    At least that ‘how to dad’ guy didn’t play although he’s better at cricket than comedy to be fair.

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    There are a number of schoolboys who are good enough to play both 1st XV rugby and 1st XI cricket. The U19 WC is only every 2 years so I guess the NZ team plays Aust and other teams in those other years.

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    @mn5 Wicketkeeper/batsman.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/111627344/top-palmerston-north-boys-high-school-athlete-has-world-at-his-feet

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    @bovidae said in Black Clash:

    There are a number of schoolboys who are good enough to play both 1st XV rugby and 1st XI cricket. The U19 WC is only every 2 years so I guess the NZ team plays Aust and other teams in those other years.

    Not often. NZC do like the ICC free ride of a fully paid for (with other people's money) U19 world cup. But dont do much U19s in between, if ever these days, 'too expensive'. Except for the last tournament in 2020, when coincidentally someone important's son was in that team. They played heaps of lead ups in 2019. Looks like Ruben Love benefited from that and got one of those series, but didnt make world cup.

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    @rapido said in Black Clash:

    Except for the last tournament in 2020, when coincidentally someone important's son was in that team.

    He was bloody ordinary too.

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    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @nzbloke said in Black Clash:

    @crucial said in Black Clash:

    This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
    Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……

    Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.

    This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.

    Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell

    I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.

    The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.

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    @rotated said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @nzbloke said in Black Clash:

    @crucial said in Black Clash:

    This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
    Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……

    Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.

    This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.

    Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell

    I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.

    The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.

    Yeah and again, I know these guys are years past their best but there has to be some kind of gentleman’s agreement to make the games reasonably close ( as I think they all have been )

    I’d have expected more of this to be honest, I wonder how fast Bond was actually bowling ?

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    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @rotated said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @nzbloke said in Black Clash:

    @crucial said in Black Clash:

    This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
    Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……

    Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.

    This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.

    Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell

    I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.

    The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.

    Yeah and again, I know these guys are years past their best but there has to be some kind of gentleman’s agreement to make the games reasonably close ( as I think they all have been )

    Doesn't Cricket always bat first in this and then Flemming has the hardest job of managing next 20 overs to make a specticle of it? He essentially determines the outcome

    Or am I wrong?

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  • rotatedR Offline
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    @hooroo said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @rotated said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @nzbloke said in Black Clash:

    @crucial said in Black Clash:

    This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
    Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……

    Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.

    This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.

    Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell

    I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.

    The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.

    Yeah and again, I know these guys are years past their best but there has to be some kind of gentleman’s agreement to make the games reasonably close ( as I think they all have been )

    Doesn't Cricket always bat first in this and then Flemming has the hardest job of managing next 20 overs to make a specticle of it? He essentially determines the outcome

    Or am I wrong?

    For sure get it to the final over reasonably close - Team Cricket with the bat always fart around the first few overs to waste time (unless Flems issues with left arm seam really do extend to someone of Richie's quality).

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    @hooroo said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @rotated said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @nzbloke said in Black Clash:

    @crucial said in Black Clash:

    This would be entertaining (Tom Walsh smashing it), Jordie bowling bouncers etc but these commentary idiots are just painfully unfunny.
    Grant Elliot has come in to bat and they managed to say “hairy javelin” 3 times in ten seconds. Once might have been humorous……

    Top hitting from Tom Walsh, for a big fella he's pretty good in the field too - yeah, those commentators are trying too hard to be funny, so come across as pillocks.

    This event is a really fun watch every year - we have all played at least some backyard cricket & a lot of the rugby players have played plenty of youth cricket, so they're always going to perform decently at least against the cricketers.

    Yeah I’m not convinced. I still struggle with the fact an ex AB captain managed to hit Bondy for six, it was only 20 or so years ago he had Ponting, Gilly, Hayden and whoever else jumping and dodging and getting out during a fantastic six wicket spell

    I find it easier to believe that Bond was just trying to avoid both an injury and a Harmison style delivery and just get it on the pitch than that they were able to take Vettori into the deep with ease the way they did. Most international cricketers will tell you the biggest step up between club and FC and then FC to test is quality spin (along with extreme pace) and even at his age the drift and flight of Vettori would not be something any of them had seen before even at U19 level.

    The best part was seeing Bond and Oram still moving pretty well through their actions in their mid 40s given their history with back injuries.

    Yeah and again, I know these guys are years past their best but there has to be some kind of gentleman’s agreement to make the games reasonably close ( as I think they all have been )

    Doesn't Cricket always bat first in this and then Flemming has the hardest job of managing next 20 overs to make a specticle of it? He essentially determines the outcome

    Or am I wrong?

    Partly that and partly selecting a few decent actual cricketers for the rugby side.

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    For all the hype and banter, I wouldn't read much into the result of any of the matches. Team Cricket kept three slips in for the about the first five overs. Some of the Team Cricket bouncers would have struggled to hit a batsman standing on the batsman's shoulders...

    If McCullum and Devcich had played for Team Cricket, the match would have been as one sided as it would be if they all played a Black Clash game of rugby...

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    Calum Henderson  /  Jan 21, 2022  /  Sports

    The 11 New Zealand cricket legends I most want to see in the Black Clash

    The 11 New Zealand cricket legends I most want to see in the Black Clash

    Because no nostalgic New Zealand cricket XI will ever be complete without Chris Harris.

    Chris Harris in one of these could be a bit of fun if he's still got it.

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    @godder said in Black Clash:

    Calum Henderson  /  Jan 21, 2022  /  Sports

    The 11 New Zealand cricket legends I most want to see in the Black Clash

    The 11 New Zealand cricket legends I most want to see in the Black Clash

    Because no nostalgic New Zealand cricket XI will ever be complete without Chris Harris.

    Chris Harris in one of these could be a bit of fun if he's still got it.

    Harry sure was a hero for someone who gave such modest returns. One hundy and one Michelle in 250 ODIs !!!!

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    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @godder said in Black Clash:

    Calum Henderson  /  Jan 21, 2022  /  Sports

    The 11 New Zealand cricket legends I most want to see in the Black Clash

    The 11 New Zealand cricket legends I most want to see in the Black Clash

    Because no nostalgic New Zealand cricket XI will ever be complete without Chris Harris.

    Chris Harris in one of these could be a bit of fun if he's still got it.

    Harry sure was a hero for someone who gave such modest returns. One hundy and one Michelle in 250 ODIs !!!!

    lol at yet another shit box score take from you

    His job was not to score hundreds or fucking take bags

    His job was to bat at the death, find the gap, and tick the score over. Being not out in 30% of his digs shows he probably did that well.
    With the ball he was supposed to bowl quick cheap over after quick cheap over. And be a gun in the field.

    Canny fucking cricketer who would still be in our T20 team these days i reckon. Probably doesn't make the 50-over side in the modern game. But who knows?

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by MN5
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    @mariner4life said in Black Clash:

    @mn5 said in Black Clash:

    @godder said in Black Clash:

    Calum Henderson  /  Jan 21, 2022  /  Sports

    The 11 New Zealand cricket legends I most want to see in the Black Clash

    The 11 New Zealand cricket legends I most want to see in the Black Clash

    Because no nostalgic New Zealand cricket XI will ever be complete without Chris Harris.

    Chris Harris in one of these could be a bit of fun if he's still got it.

    Harry sure was a hero for someone who gave such modest returns. One hundy and one Michelle in 250 ODIs !!!!

    lol at yet another shit box score take from you

    His job was not to score hundreds or fucking take bags

    His job was to bat at the death, find the gap, and tick the score over. Being not out in 30% of his digs shows he probably did that well.
    With the ball he was supposed to bowl quick cheap over after quick cheap over. And be a gun in the field.

    Canny fucking cricketer who would still be in our T20 team these days i reckon. Probably doesn't make the 50-over side in the modern game. But who knows?

    I never said he was terrible, I said he had modest returns. He was an ok player in his day and we often lacked those.

    Besides, after your assertion that Matthew Hayden was a flat track bully I’m not sure I’ve paid too much attention to your cricket talk to be honest.

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    @mariner4life gilly and Michael Vaughan ( whose been excellent) mentioned him the other day, with a tone of definite irreverence. Gilly saying often he tried to smash him out of the ground but seldom could and came unstuck on more than one occasion.

    It was nice to hear.

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