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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    The search for a 6 that compliments Ardie at 8 continues.

    Christ. Surely Fozzie can coach Akira to say something nice about how tall Ardie is looking?!! 🙂

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

    @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    The search for a 6 that compliments Ardie at 8 continues.

    Christ. Surely Fozzie can coach Akira to say something nice about how tall Ardie is looking?!! 🙂

    Typical south islander, put all the blame on Akira instead of the Tongan thug from your invitational XV. 😉

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

      @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      The search for a 6 that compliments Ardie at 8 continues.

      Christ. Surely Fozzie can coach Akira to say something nice about how tall Ardie is looking?!! 🙂

      Typical south islander, put all the blame on Akira instead of the Tongan thug from your invitational XV. 😉

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      @nepia I'm blaming Fozzie!

      Notable that Toddy's nicely-brought-up and polite son, got the inside running late in the season.

      "Woah, shiny boots, Ardie!"

      1. Ethan Blackadder.
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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @nepia I'm blaming Fozzie!

        Notable that Toddy's nicely-brought-up and polite son, got the inside running late in the season.

        "Woah, shiny boots, Ardie!"

        1. Ethan Blackadder.
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        @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

        @nepia I'm blaming Fozzie!

        Notable that Toddy's nicely-brought-up and polite son, got the inside running late in the season.

        "Woah, shiny boots, Ardie!"

        1. Ethan Blackadder.

        Did he get injured against Ireland as he didn't play against the best team of the tour? (Which in hindsight was a good game to miss).

        Nice deflection away from your imported Ta$man thug though.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

          @nepia I'm blaming Fozzie!

          Notable that Toddy's nicely-brought-up and polite son, got the inside running late in the season.

          "Woah, shiny boots, Ardie!"

          1. Ethan Blackadder.

          Did he get injured against Ireland as he didn't play against the best team of the tour? (Which in hindsight was a good game to miss).

          Nice deflection away from your imported Ta$man thug though.

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          @nepia He was a highlander when doing his thuggy stuff.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @nepia He was a highlander when doing his thuggy stuff.

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            @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

            @nepia He was a highlander when doing his thuggy stuff.

            He's a Ta$man-ian 365 days per year. Learnt his thuggery in Nelson, unleashed it on the poor unsuspecting good folks in Dunedin.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

              @nepia He was a highlander when doing his thuggy stuff.

              He's a Ta$man-ian 365 days per year. Learnt his thuggery in Nelson, unleashed it on the poor unsuspecting good folks in Dunedin.

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              @nepia i've always liked you

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                @nepia He was a highlander when doing his thuggy stuff.

                He's a Ta$man-ian 365 days per year. Learnt his thuggery in Nelson, unleashed it on the poor unsuspecting good folks in Dunedin.

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                @nepia He's an import and hasn't spent enough time within our borders for the good influence to soak right through.

                You would have thought Mitch Hunt's goodness would have radiated far enough to keep Shannon under control, but apparently not.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @nepia He's an import and hasn't spent enough time within our borders for the good influence to soak right through.

                  You would have thought Mitch Hunt's goodness would have radiated far enough to keep Shannon under control, but apparently not.

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                  @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @nepia He's an import and hasn't spent enough time within our borders for the good influence to soak right through.

                  You would have thought Mitch Hunt's goodness would have radiated far enough to keep Shannon under control, but apparently not.

                  Jesus, he's been in Ta$man for 7 years, damn I feel sorry for you primary school teachers if 7 years isn't enough to teach someone right from wrong.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @nepia He's an import and hasn't spent enough time within our borders for the good influence to soak right through.

                    You would have thought Mitch Hunt's goodness would have radiated far enough to keep Shannon under control, but apparently not.

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                    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                    He's an import

                    nooooo

                    seriously?

                    an import? In the South Central Vikings?

                    I for one am shocked. Shocked i tell you

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                      #355

                      Here's the backs.

                      Halfback

                      At Risk
                      TJP

                      Will be kept on
                      Christie
                      Weber

                      Definites
                      Smith

                      All our eggs are in the speed basket here.

                      First-fives

                      Gone
                      DMac

                      Definites
                      B Barrett
                      Mounga

                      Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

                      Midfield

                      At Risk

                      Ennor

                      Definite
                      ALB
                      R Ioane

                      Will be kept on
                      Tupaea
                      Havili

                      Havili will probably stay around as utility but room for others to show their wares. (RTS, post injury Goodhue). We still aren't fixed in this area but I don't buy into the obsession that we need to settle on two and play them all the time.

                      Three-quarters

                      At Risk
                      Bridge

                      Will be kept on
                      Reece

                      Definite
                      Jordan
                      J Barrett

                      When you drop Reiko into the midfield box we are surprisingly light on options here. Wingers can sometimes appear as a flash iin the pan at the right time and there are a few around that could hit form to do just that. If we want Jordie to use his attacking instincts like Bender used to then we need Jordan to play as a second fullback. Strike winger should be whoever is on a hot streak and can finish attacks in traffic. That removes Bridge from the equation IMO.

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        Here's the backs.

                        Halfback

                        At Risk
                        TJP

                        Will be kept on
                        Christie
                        Weber

                        Definites
                        Smith

                        All our eggs are in the speed basket here.

                        First-fives

                        Gone
                        DMac

                        Definites
                        B Barrett
                        Mounga

                        Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

                        Midfield

                        At Risk

                        Ennor

                        Definite
                        ALB
                        R Ioane

                        Will be kept on
                        Tupaea
                        Havili

                        Havili will probably stay around as utility but room for others to show their wares. (RTS, post injury Goodhue). We still aren't fixed in this area but I don't buy into the obsession that we need to settle on two and play them all the time.

                        Three-quarters

                        At Risk
                        Bridge

                        Will be kept on
                        Reece

                        Definite
                        Jordan
                        J Barrett

                        When you drop Reiko into the midfield box we are surprisingly light on options here. Wingers can sometimes appear as a flash iin the pan at the right time and there are a few around that could hit form to do just that. If we want Jordie to use his attacking instincts like Bender used to then we need Jordan to play as a second fullback. Strike winger should be whoever is on a hot streak and can finish attacks in traffic. That removes Bridge from the equation IMO.

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                        #356

                        @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

                        I'd like Perofeta to get that third 10 position, it looks like he's matured a lot and it's paying dividends for the Blues.

                        There is a lot to like about Ruben Love aswell but I don't think he will be in the picture until after the World Cup. He's still got plenty of growing to do.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          Here's the backs.

                          Halfback

                          At Risk
                          TJP

                          Will be kept on
                          Christie
                          Weber

                          Definites
                          Smith

                          All our eggs are in the speed basket here.

                          First-fives

                          Gone
                          DMac

                          Definites
                          B Barrett
                          Mounga

                          Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

                          Midfield

                          At Risk

                          Ennor

                          Definite
                          ALB
                          R Ioane

                          Will be kept on
                          Tupaea
                          Havili

                          Havili will probably stay around as utility but room for others to show their wares. (RTS, post injury Goodhue). We still aren't fixed in this area but I don't buy into the obsession that we need to settle on two and play them all the time.

                          Three-quarters

                          At Risk
                          Bridge

                          Will be kept on
                          Reece

                          Definite
                          Jordan
                          J Barrett

                          When you drop Reiko into the midfield box we are surprisingly light on options here. Wingers can sometimes appear as a flash iin the pan at the right time and there are a few around that could hit form to do just that. If we want Jordie to use his attacking instincts like Bender used to then we need Jordan to play as a second fullback. Strike winger should be whoever is on a hot streak and can finish attacks in traffic. That removes Bridge from the equation IMO.

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                          @crucial Bit early to call, but i don't see ho Tupaea's woeful defence can keep him in the discussion and Havili isn't exactly setting the world on fire to assuage concerns about his Test form.

                          Of all positions, the midfield is the most contentious an open. Only ALB is guaranteed, RIoane by virtue of being a guaranteed winger if not centre.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

                            I'd like Perofeta to get that third 10 position, it looks like he's matured a lot and it's paying dividends for the Blues.

                            There is a lot to like about Ruben Love aswell but I don't think he will be in the picture until after the World Cup. He's still got plenty of growing to do.

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                            @canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

                            I'd like Perofeta to get that third 10 position, he's looked bloody good this year and has seemed to have matured.

                            I'd like that too if he can see more time in the 10 jersey once BB comes back.

                            I don't see Gatland or Ioane as options in black at the moment

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

                              I'd like Perofeta to get that third 10 position, he's looked bloody good this year and has seemed to have matured.

                              I'd like that too if he can see more time in the 10 jersey once BB comes back.

                              I don't see Gatland or Ioane as options in black at the moment

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                              @crucial i was going to ask how chiefs fans though Ioane was going

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                                The point of listing players like that is to see how difficult it actually is to put together a XV at this stage.

                                I would only ink in maybe 8 players with question marks around some.

                                Absolute definite would be few, maybe Cane, Smith, ALB, Jordie, Jordan.

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                                  @crucial i was going to ask how chiefs fans though Ioane was going

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                                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @crucial i was going to ask how chiefs fans though Ioane was going

                                  I think I share what looks to be the coaches view that he isn't as solid as Gatland but is better at setting the backs up.
                                  I like some of what he does, running on to the ball, long passing game etc but not sure if the ABs can use that in the test environment.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @crucial i was going to ask how chiefs fans though Ioane was going

                                    I think I share what looks to be the coaches view that he isn't as solid as Gatland but is better at setting the backs up.
                                    I like some of what he does, running on to the ball, long passing game etc but not sure if the ABs can use that in the test environment.

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                                    @crucial sounds like you're going through exactly what we did...why we brought in Gatland and Hunt to be something different to Ioane, hope it doesn't end up like it did with us

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      He's an import

                                      nooooo

                                      seriously?

                                      an import? In the South Central Vikings?

                                      I for one am shocked. Shocked i tell you

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                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      He's an import

                                      nooooo

                                      seriously?

                                      an import? In the South Central Vikings?

                                      I for one am shocked. Shocked i tell you

                                      Pah!

                                      If everyone else had produced as many good players as us, we wouldn't need to be having these fearful conversations about France and Ireland.

                                      Frankly, if anyone else had.... 🙂

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        He's an import

                                        nooooo

                                        seriously?

                                        an import? In the South Central Vikings?

                                        I for one am shocked. Shocked i tell you

                                        Pah!

                                        If everyone else had produced as many good players as us, we wouldn't need to be having these fearful conversations about France and Ireland.

                                        Frankly, if anyone else had.... 🙂

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                                        @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        He's an import

                                        nooooo

                                        seriously?

                                        an import? In the South Central Vikings?

                                        I for one am shocked. Shocked i tell you

                                        Pah!

                                        If everyone else had produced as many good players as us, we wouldn't need to be having these fearful conversations about France and Ireland.

                                        Frankly, if anyone else had.... 🙂

                                        You're pronouncing imported wrong.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          Here's the backs.

                                          Halfback

                                          At Risk
                                          TJP

                                          Will be kept on
                                          Christie
                                          Weber

                                          Definites
                                          Smith

                                          All our eggs are in the speed basket here.

                                          First-fives

                                          Gone
                                          DMac

                                          Definites
                                          B Barrett
                                          Mounga

                                          Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

                                          Midfield

                                          At Risk

                                          Ennor

                                          Definite
                                          ALB
                                          R Ioane

                                          Will be kept on
                                          Tupaea
                                          Havili

                                          Havili will probably stay around as utility but room for others to show their wares. (RTS, post injury Goodhue). We still aren't fixed in this area but I don't buy into the obsession that we need to settle on two and play them all the time.

                                          Three-quarters

                                          At Risk
                                          Bridge

                                          Will be kept on
                                          Reece

                                          Definite
                                          Jordan
                                          J Barrett

                                          When you drop Reiko into the midfield box we are surprisingly light on options here. Wingers can sometimes appear as a flash iin the pan at the right time and there are a few around that could hit form to do just that. If we want Jordie to use his attacking instincts like Bender used to then we need Jordan to play as a second fullback. Strike winger should be whoever is on a hot streak and can finish attacks in traffic. That removes Bridge from the equation IMO.

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                                          @crucial where did you hear Dmac not returning to NZ? Thought he was back in May and keen on time at 10.

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