All Blacks 2022
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
before a mod steps in
No 1 rule of mod club is delete posts that mention a mod.
@Bones there's so many, some of whom don't know they are even mods....so that makes it tough
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@Tim Yep fair enough mate, as I said not a problem, just wonder why is all.
And I take it some have fun by calling others names that aren't here, as I say it says just as much about me that I think a bit of repect is good to. I not saying I right or others wrong, guess it's all what we see as fun.@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim Yep fair enough mate, as I said not a problem, just wonder why is all.
And I take it some have fun by calling others names that aren't here, as I say it says just as much about me that I think a bit of repect is good to. I not saying I right or others wrong, guess it's all what we see as fun.Just imagine everyone is pissed and is at the proper talking shit stage - that’s about the level.
Except no need to imagine.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim Yep fair enough mate, as I said not a problem, just wonder why is all.
And I take it some have fun by calling others names that aren't here, as I say it says just as much about me that I think a bit of repect is good to. I not saying I right or others wrong, guess it's all what we see as fun.Just imagine everyone is pissed and is at the proper talking shit stage - that’s about the level.
Except no need to imagine.
@MajorRage said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim Yep fair enough mate, as I said not a problem, just wonder why is all.
And I take it some have fun by calling others names that aren't here, as I say it says just as much about me that I think a bit of repect is good to. I not saying I right or others wrong, guess it's all what we see as fun.Just imagine everyone is pissed and is at the proper talking shit stage - that’s about the level.
Except no need to imagine.
Ok apologies fellas, I not pissed, not usually when I post. And as a rule I don't really get into namecalling etc when I pissed anyway (that I remember), not something I ever got into.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
even a solid 11 to allow RI to really work on midfield without being shifted out there every few games would be a huge help
Clarke
On form and fully committed he could be world class.
However, does he want to become a world class player for the ABs?
After ruining his last season, chasing a 7’s dream he has had 5 or 6 games for the Blues and was in the press saying he would like to play in the NRL. I know this may be a contract negotiation ploy but it was a pretty poor judgement, especially given that he is suspended right now.
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On form and fully committed he could be world class.
However, does he want to become a world class player for the ABs?
After ruining his last season, chasing a 7’s dream he has had 5 or 6 games for the Blues and was in the press saying he would like to play in the NRL. I know this may be a contract negotiation ploy but it was a pretty poor judgement, especially given that he is suspended right now.
I would ignore the NRL stuff. There’s a few articles from the one interview. It seems the Aussie media asked two questions “Do you want to play NRL?” & “How good is Roger Tuivasa-Sheck?”
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I would ignore the NRL stuff. There’s a few articles from the one interview. It seems the Aussie media asked two questions “Do you want to play NRL?” & “How good is Roger Tuivasa-Sheck?”
Just seemed like an odd thing to come out with regardless if he is just answering a question.
Would like to see him back in black this year as he could be something special
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Just as well our Stuff scribes aren't the AB selectors. All seem to be big fans of Frizell. Hinton's backline looks familiar.
Marc Hinton’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Luke Jacobson, Tupou Vaa’i, Brodie Retallick, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot.
Robert van Royen’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Finlay Christie, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Ofa Tuungafasi, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Ethan de Groot.
Richard Knowler's All Blacks XV: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, Will Jordan, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
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Just as well our Stuff scribes aren't the AB selectors. All seem to be big fans of Frizell. Hinton's backline looks familiar.
Marc Hinton’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Luke Jacobson, Tupou Vaa’i, Brodie Retallick, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot.
Robert van Royen’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Finlay Christie, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Ofa Tuungafasi, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Ethan de Groot.
Richard Knowler's All Blacks XV: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, Will Jordan, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
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Those teams fucking suck
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Just as well our Stuff scribes aren't the AB selectors. All seem to be big fans of Frizell. Hinton's backline looks familiar.
Marc Hinton’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Luke Jacobson, Tupou Vaa’i, Brodie Retallick, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot.
Robert van Royen’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Finlay Christie, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Ofa Tuungafasi, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Ethan de Groot.
Richard Knowler's All Blacks XV: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, Will Jordan, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
Just as well our Stuff scribes aren't the AB selectors. All seem to be big fans of Frizell. Hinton's backline looks familiar.
Marc Hinton’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Luke Jacobson, Tupou Vaa’i, Brodie Retallick, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot.
That fluffybunny reads this thread. Bet if I had made a forward pack he'd have selected that too. Certainly would've been better than the crap he's saddled my backline with.
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I fear Foster thinks "We lost to France and Ireland because we were tired after three months on the road", which is not untrue. So Knowler's team could be not far from the one we might see in June. As far as I am concerned, I would like to see new blood injected into the team (De Groot and Newell in the front row to get rid of Bower, Laulala and Ta'avao who are good Super Rugby players but not of international calibre - Lord for Whitelock, LF for Bridge).
Hookers : Taylor and Taukei'aho are obvious choices. If Coles is not fit, I would go with Eklund who is in the form of his life. It's a shame Tyrone Thompson can't throw because he is the best ball carrier after ST. -
I'm elevating Hoskins Sotutu to my starting test 8
Strong in the tackle, strong at ruck, good lineout option and can smash through a tackle
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:
Anyone know when the dates get confirmed for the Tests this year? Doesn't seem to be anything online
Irish travel sites are saying the 3 tests are
Saturday 2nd July
Saturday 9th July
Saturday 16th JulyThese dates line up exactly with England's tour of Aus.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:
Anyone know when the dates get confirmed for the Tests this year? Doesn't seem to be anything online
Irish travel sites are saying the 3 tests are
Saturday 2nd July
Saturday 9th July
Saturday 16th JulyThose dates are confirmed on the WR website but the venues are still listed as TBC.
And these are the refs for those tests:
Karl Dickson (RFU)
Jaco Peyper (SARU)
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I'm elevating Hoskins Sotutu to my starting test 8
Strong in the tackle, strong at ruck, good lineout option and can smash through a tackle
Has nice hands in attack too@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm elevating Hoskins Sotutu to my starting test 8
Strong in the tackle, strong at ruck, good lineout option and can smash through a tackle
Has nice hands in attack tooImagine Ardie coming on frothing with 30 mins to go.
While Cane watches from the stands.
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I'm elevating Hoskins Sotutu to my starting test 8
Strong in the tackle, strong at ruck, good lineout option and can smash through a tackle
Has nice hands in attack too@mariner4life Do you start the better rugby player OR do you play the better No.8?
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I'm elevating Hoskins Sotutu to my starting test 8
Strong in the tackle, strong at ruck, good lineout option and can smash through a tackle
Has nice hands in attack too@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm elevating Hoskins Sotutu to my starting test 8
Strong in the tackle, strong at ruck, good lineout option and can smash through a tackle
Has nice hands in attack tooHow are his post-contact metres, though...?
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Just as well our Stuff scribes aren't the AB selectors. All seem to be big fans of Frizell. Hinton's backline looks familiar.
Marc Hinton’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Luke Jacobson, Tupou Vaa’i, Brodie Retallick, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot.
Robert van Royen’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Finlay Christie, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Ofa Tuungafasi, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Ethan de Groot.
Richard Knowler's All Blacks XV: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, Will Jordan, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
I sense Foster will make minimal changes so Knowler's XV is closer I think. I don't see Frizell making the cut (I'd go for Akira if fit) and the front row could change a bit.
Robert van Royen’s is weird. No way would you leave Jordie Barrett or Aaron Smith - two world-class players - out of a starting XV to play Ireland.
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@mariner4life Do you start the better rugby player OR do you play the better No.8?
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life Do you start the better rugby player OR do you play the better No.8?
Well, traditionally, when the ABs fuck about, ypu pick the best rugby players
Then you get Cullen at centre.
I want A Savea at 7 or 20 because his skill set is too good to ignore all together. And he will provide great balance to the starting trio or great energy off the bench.
But he's not got the right attributes to be the best #8
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Just as well our Stuff scribes aren't the AB selectors. All seem to be big fans of Frizell. Hinton's backline looks familiar.
Marc Hinton’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Luke Jacobson, Tupou Vaa’i, Brodie Retallick, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot.
Robert van Royen’s All Blacks XV: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Finlay Christie, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Ofa Tuungafasi, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Ethan de Groot.
Richard Knowler's All Blacks XV: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, Will Jordan, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (captain), Shannon Frizell, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody.
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Fozzie was on The Breakdown tonight.
He said two interesting things:
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He's expecting to select 36 players in the initial squad for Ireland (won't be more, could be less depending on who is injured).
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The problem with red cards appear to not be so much with the tackle heights of the initial tackler as with the second man coming in to make a two man dominant tackle failing to adjust to the dynamics. He thinks they will need to look long and hard at how the All Blacks play this. Whether they send the second man in less hard, or whether they decide it's too risky to be worth doing at all.
My thought was maybe choose who can do it - don't use Scott Barrett for one.
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