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    Mackerzzzz
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    https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

    Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

      Also: just stick RTS in, he looks the goods at 12

      He looks a talent, but way too early to say if RTS is the goods or not. Need more than 8 or so games at top level before we can make that assessment IMHO.

      Reiko and either JG or QT will be the likely 13/12 combination.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

      Also: just stick RTS in, he looks the goods at 12

      He looks a talent, but way too early to say if RTS is the goods or not. Need more than 8 or so games at top level before we can make that assessment IMHO.

      Reiko and either JG or QT will be the likely 13/12 combination.

      RTS is possibly a year too late to force his way in as a starter unless there are injuries that give him a foot in the door. He'll be a squaddie for sure but The coaches/selectors have said that they spent last year looking for depth and this year will be consolidation and combination.
      I agree that he is playing well but he also gets the press attention because of his history.
      I would have no issues with him in the ABs this year but can also see that QT was invested in last year, has stepped up a notch this year and is performing just as well.
      I do hope that we get in a situation against Ireland where we can put him on the bench and give him a crack though.

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        https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

        Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

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        Crucial
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        @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

        https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

        Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

        He had keyhole surgery apparently so hopefully not too long.

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        • M Mackerzzzz

          https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

          Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

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          @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

          https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

          Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

          Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

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            Dermody confirmed the groin injury to All Black halfback Aaron Smith was a “two-to-three weeker”, but felt his replacement, and national squad contender, Folau Fakatava had done a fine job in his stead.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128870043/super-rugby-pacific-clarke-dermody-puts-his-hand-up-for-highlanders-coaching-job

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

              https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

              Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

              Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

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              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

              https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

              Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

              Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

              Might be a bit different into Pro rugby! But hopefully he's fit for Ireland, the fact he was at the game last night is a good sign

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

                Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

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                @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

                Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

                That's not my argument.

                Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

                Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

                  Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

                  That's not my argument.

                  Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

                  Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                    I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                      I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                      I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

                      My memory might be failing me, but didn't SBW play at 6 in France?

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

                        Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

                        That's not my argument.

                        Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

                        Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

                        Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

                        That's not my argument.

                        Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

                        Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

                        I don’t think SBW was ever rated as the ‘answer’.

                        But there were a couple of leaguies who made the Wallabies side the season after they left league - Andrew Walker and Mat Rogers. And that was during a time when there was quality backs still playing in green and yellow

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                          I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

                          My memory might be failing me, but didn't SBW play at 6 in France?

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                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          My memory might be failing me, but didn't SBW play at 6 in France?

                          Mainly at centre according to the inter-web thingy.

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                            The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                              The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                              Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                                I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                                I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

                                Yeah true, Tupaea is probably equivalent to Nonu so might as well stick with him and not see how RTS goes.

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

                                  Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

                                  That's not my argument.

                                  Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

                                  Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

                                  I don’t think SBW was ever rated as the ‘answer’.

                                  But there were a couple of leaguies who made the Wallabies side the season after they left league - Andrew Walker and Mat Rogers. And that was during a time when there was quality backs still playing in green and yellow

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

                                  Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

                                  That's not my argument.

                                  Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

                                  Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

                                  I don’t think SBW was ever rated as the ‘answer’.

                                  But there were a couple of leaguies who made the Wallabies side the season after they left league - Andrew Walker and Mat Rogers. And that was during a time when there was quality backs still playing in green and yellow

                                  Whenever SBW didn’t play well for the ABs he was either “coming back from an injury” or “coming back from a spell in league”……those excuses got him heaps of game time that others might have been dropped for.

                                  I bet Julian Savea wished he had that kind of marketing.

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                                    Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                                    Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

                                    Only if we want to lose to Ireland. Again.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

                                      Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

                                      Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

                                      Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

                                      Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

                                      If Google says that then that’s good enough for me.

                                      Who needs medical opinions ?

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

                                        Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

                                        Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

                                        If Google says that then that’s good enough for me.

                                        Who needs medical opinions ?

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                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

                                        Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

                                        Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

                                        If Google says that then that’s good enough for me.

                                        Who needs medical opinions ?

                                        Dr Google is the man.

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                                          Is Fakatava eligible for the Irish series or the Four Nations?

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