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  • BonesB Bones

    @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

    Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

    Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

    That's not my argument.

    Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

    Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

      Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

      That's not my argument.

      Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

      Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

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      @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

        I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

          I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

          I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

          My memory might be failing me, but didn't SBW play at 6 in France?

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

            Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

            That's not my argument.

            Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

            Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

            Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

            That's not my argument.

            Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

            Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

            I don’t think SBW was ever rated as the ‘answer’.

            But there were a couple of leaguies who made the Wallabies side the season after they left league - Andrew Walker and Mat Rogers. And that was during a time when there was quality backs still playing in green and yellow

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

              I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

              My memory might be failing me, but didn't SBW play at 6 in France?

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              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

              My memory might be failing me, but didn't SBW play at 6 in France?

              Mainly at centre according to the inter-web thingy.

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                #1933

                The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

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                  #1934

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                  The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                  Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                    I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

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                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                    I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

                    Yeah true, Tupaea is probably equivalent to Nonu so might as well stick with him and not see how RTS goes.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

                      Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

                      That's not my argument.

                      Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

                      Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

                      I don’t think SBW was ever rated as the ‘answer’.

                      But there were a couple of leaguies who made the Wallabies side the season after they left league - Andrew Walker and Mat Rogers. And that was during a time when there was quality backs still playing in green and yellow

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                      #1936

                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...

                      Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.

                      That's not my argument.

                      Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.

                      Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.

                      I don’t think SBW was ever rated as the ‘answer’.

                      But there were a couple of leaguies who made the Wallabies side the season after they left league - Andrew Walker and Mat Rogers. And that was during a time when there was quality backs still playing in green and yellow

                      Whenever SBW didn’t play well for the ABs he was either “coming back from an injury” or “coming back from a spell in league”……those excuses got him heaps of game time that others might have been dropped for.

                      I bet Julian Savea wished he had that kind of marketing.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                        The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                        Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

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                        #1937

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                        The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                        Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

                        Only if we want to lose to Ireland. Again.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

                          https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

                          Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

                          Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

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                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

                          https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

                          Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

                          Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

                          If Google says that then that’s good enough for me.

                          Who needs medical opinions ?

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

                            https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

                            Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

                            Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

                            If Google says that then that’s good enough for me.

                            Who needs medical opinions ?

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                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:

                            https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/shoulder-injury-likely-rule-blackadder-out-ireland-series-2022-06-04/

                            Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?

                            Google says 2 to 3 weeks.

                            If Google says that then that’s good enough for me.

                            Who needs medical opinions ?

                            Dr Google is the man.

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                              Is Fakatava eligible for the Irish series or the Four Nations?

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                                Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

                                Only if we want to lose to Ireland. Again.

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                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                                Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

                                Only if we want to lose to Ireland. Again.

                                Doubt it will be. Think there's a chance Goodhue might get the 12 slot though. Ritche (and poss, Havili) on the bench.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                                  I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

                                  Yeah true, Tupaea is probably equivalent to Nonu so might as well stick with him and not see how RTS goes.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that 😁

                                  I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.

                                  Yeah true, Tupaea is probably equivalent to Nonu so might as well stick with him and not see how RTS goes.

                                  When SBW was given a go, we had Nonu and/or Conrad to fall back on - which was needed against Wales in '10

                                  Not saying we don't give RTS a go this year, just don't think Foster is going to see throwing him in the deep end against Ireland as the smart option

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                                    Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                                    Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

                                    The problem there is Havili has been underwhelming in 2022, Goodhue speedwise looks better suited to 12 and Ennor should be nowhere near a black jersey

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                                      Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                                      Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

                                      Yeah except all 3 Blues players are vastly superior

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                                        Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.

                                        Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?

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                                          @mariner4life only with Jordie at 12, which I am warming to with his increased gametime there. He was fucking outstanding against the Brumbies, when he went off for an HIA we just completely fell apart

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