All Blacks 2022
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Moāunga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Moāunga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace
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@FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 wouldn't imagine rts would get a hit out for the Maori as he's Samoan
Yep, well have never seen him or anything, so didn't know his genealogy, as I don't watch league so didn't even know who he was until he came to rugby.
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@Dan54 I think they are too risk adverse to start TVS. They will probably go with those who have started before including Tupea and Goodhue.
With TVS he was knock out of the game against the chiefs because PGS was running down his throat. Still not convince with his size at second five although most of choices are shaded by Nonu or SBW size.
@broughie said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 I think they are too risk adverse to start TVS. They will probably go with those who have started before including Tupea and Goodhue.
With TVS he was knock out of the game against the chiefs because PGS was running down his throat. Still not convince with his size at second five although most of choices are shaded by Nonu or SBW size.
I actually think Irish tests are when the odd risk will be taken, before RC?
I can't see JB at 12, surely be toss up between QT and RTS?
That comes with a caveat, that I know no more than anyone else on here so I could be miles off. But listening to those that are a lot closer to things than me, that seems to be suggestions. -
Antway off top off head, and could well be miles of here is 23 for first test?
Ethan de Groot
Codie Taylor
Nepo Laulala
Sam Whitelock
Brodie Reattlick
Akira Ioane
Sam Cane
Ardie SaveaAaron Smith
Beaden Barrett
Sevu Reece
Quinn Tupaea
Reiko Ioane
Will Jordan
Jordie BarrettSamisoni Taukei'aho
George Bower
Ofa Tuunafasi
Scott Barrett
Luke Jacobson
Brad Weber
Richie Mounga
Jack GoodhueI say that with no confidence, and can see Papal'i on bench if he fit, maybe swap 2 and 16 and could have RTS on bench, QT covers 13 and Reiko wing?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.
Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.
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Not that I think heās in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.
Yes, that is the level of things
If they persist with the Cane / Ardie 7-8 then Iād have Akira at 6 and Sotutu on the bench. Thatās even with a fit Papaliāi and Blackadder.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
If he goes reasonably OK, I'd think Foster will think it's less risky than picking a bloke who's played less than 10 games of top-level Union and zero Tests, or a relative novice like QT, than a bloke with 70 games and 19 Tests.
This logic really makes zero sense to me. It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there. Because he's played loads of other games in a different position and looked good.
Let's throw Jordie on the wing, Jordan isn't ready and we might destroy his career.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.
The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
logic in having DH in the 23 for the 1st Test as a safe option
logic? how? i don't get this. how is a player proven to be not to standard considered a safe choice just because he has pulled on a jersey before?
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
logic in having DH in the 23 for the 1st Test as a safe option
logic? how? i don't get this. how is a player proven to be not to standard considered a safe choice just because he has pulled on a jersey before?
I'm just pointing out that, for the coaches, there is see some logic in having a utility who can cover much of the backline and is familiar with the environment for a key 1st Test.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Moāunga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Moāunga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace
Really? Franks over Bower?
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Not that I think heās in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.
Yes, that is the level of things
If they persist with the Cane / Ardie 7-8 then Iād have Akira at 6 and Sotutu on the bench. Thatās even with a fit Papaliāi and Blackadder.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
Not that I think heās in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.
Yes, that is the level of things
If they persist with the Cane / Ardie 7-8 then Iād have Akira at 6 and Sotutu on the bench. Thatās even with a fit Papaliāi and Blackadder.
I will almost bet my balls he is, every rugby pundit etc I have heard etc have him in the squad, whether he gets on field against Irish is another story, but he will be in squad I really stronly suspect.
I will also be very surprised if the 3 loosies you name aren't in starting line up for first test, and have actually in my team that I was silly enough to put in here. -
Not that I think heās in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.
Yes, that is the level of things
If they persist with the Cane / Ardie 7-8 then Iād have Akira at 6 and Sotutu on the bench. Thatās even with a fit Papaliāi and Blackadder.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
Not that I think heās in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.
Yes, that is the level of things
If they persist with the Cane / Ardie 7-8 then Iād have Akira at 6 and Sotutu on the bench. Thatās even with a fit Papaliāi and Blackadder.
There needs to be some fun given Bridge isnāt likely to be picked
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.
The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.
The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.
I'd be interested to know how many of that huge number of caps (just over a season of caps really) are at 12.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.
The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.
I'd be interested to know how many of that huge number of caps (just over a season of caps really) are at 12.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.
The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.
I'd be interested to know how many of that huge number of caps (just over a season of caps really) are at 12.
Dunno. but a whole lot more than Jordie, RTS or the still-green QT.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Moāunga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace
Really? Franks over Bower?
@ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
If all are fit, I hope to see
9-Smith
10-Barrett
11-Clarke
12-Barrett
13-Ioane
14-Reece
15-Jordan21-Christie
22-Moāunga
23-Tupaea or GoodhueNow do the forwards
J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace
Really? Franks over Bower?
Franks will score a try if selected. Bower on the bench
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.
Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.
Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.
Does it? It helps his chances but I still think heāll struggle to squeeze in
What loosies do you think theyāll pick?
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.
Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.
Does it? It helps his chances but I still think heāll struggle to squeeze in
What loosies do you think theyāll pick?
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.
Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.
Does it? It helps his chances but I still think heāll struggle to squeeze in
What loosies do you think theyāll pick?
Agree.
With Cane and Savea dead certainties and Papaliāi very likely, they do have a lot of bases covered.
Add Ioane and Sotutu who the AB coaches seem to play as specialist 6 and 8 respectively, there is the opportunity to select another specialist 6 or 8. One that has a bit of size and loves to run the ball.
