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All Blacks 2022

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.

    The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.

    The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.

    I'd be interested to know how many of that huge number of caps (just over a season of caps really) are at 12.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.

      The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.

      I'd be interested to know how many of that huge number of caps (just over a season of caps really) are at 12.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      It's less risky to pick a guy who was a below average 12 (and is still nothing special) than a guy who actually looks more than comfortable there.

      The logic Foster will probably use, is it's less risky to pick a guy with 19 caps at Test level (and I thought he was OK, though nothing special) than a guy with 0 caps and under 10 games at the level below and pit him against one of the better midfields in world rugby.

      I'd be interested to know how many of that huge number of caps (just over a season of caps really) are at 12.

      Dunno. but a whole lot more than Jordie, RTS or the still-green QT.

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      • A ARHS

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

        @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

        If all are fit, I hope to see

        9-Smith
        10-Barrett
        11-Clarke
        12-Barrett
        13-Ioane
        14-Reece
        15-Jordan

        21-Christie
        22-Mo’unga
        23-Tupaea or Goodhue

        Now do the forwards 🙂

        J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace

        😎

        Really? Franks over Bower?

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        @ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

        @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

        If all are fit, I hope to see

        9-Smith
        10-Barrett
        11-Clarke
        12-Barrett
        13-Ioane
        14-Reece
        15-Jordan

        21-Christie
        22-Mo’unga
        23-Tupaea or Goodhue

        Now do the forwards 🙂

        J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace

        😎

        Really? Franks over Bower?

        Franks will score a try if selected. Bower on the bench

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.

          Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.

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          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.

          Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.

          Does it? It helps his chances but I still think he’ll struggle to squeeze in

          What loosies do you think they’ll pick?

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.

            Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.

            Does it? It helps his chances but I still think he’ll struggle to squeeze in

            What loosies do you think they’ll pick?

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            #2239

            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.

            Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.

            Does it? It helps his chances but I still think he’ll struggle to squeeze in

            What loosies do you think they’ll pick?

            Agree.

            With Cane and Savea dead certainties and Papali’i very likely, they do have a lot of bases covered.

            Add Ioane and Sotutu who the AB coaches seem to play as specialist 6 and 8 respectively, there is the opportunity to select another specialist 6 or 8. One that has a bit of size and loves to run the ball.

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              Cane, Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu certainties. Three who can play 7, three who can play 8, two who can play 6.

              With Vaa'i able to cover six, there may only be one spot left?

              Frizell, Jacobson, Robinson competing for one spot?

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                If all are fit, I hope to see

                9-Smith
                10-Barrett
                11-Clarke
                12-Barrett
                13-Ioane
                14-Reece
                15-Jordan

                21-Christie
                22-Mo’unga
                23-Tupaea or Goodhue

                Now do the forwards 🙂

                J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace

                😎

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                #2241

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                If all are fit, I hope to see

                9-Smith
                10-Barrett
                11-Clarke
                12-Barrett
                13-Ioane
                14-Reece
                15-Jordan

                21-Christie
                22-Mo’unga
                23-Tupaea or Goodhue

                Now do the forwards 🙂

                J. Moody, C. Taylor, O. Franks, S. Whitelock, L. Romano, S. Barrett, E. Blackadder, C. Grace

                😎

                Never gets old ...

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  Not that I think he’s in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.

                  Yes, that is the level of things 😀

                  If they persist with the Cane / Ardie 7-8 then I’d have Akira at 6 and Sotutu on the bench. That’s even with a fit Papali’i and Blackadder.

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                  #2242

                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Not that I think he’s in our top 6 loosies, but I hope Frizell gets selected just to see the melt down on here.

                  Given injury who misses out to Frizell?

                  Don't have a problem with his selection if there's a couple out and he's the best of the rest.

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.

                    Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.

                    Does it? It helps his chances but I still think he’ll struggle to squeeze in

                    What loosies do you think they’ll pick?

                    Agree.

                    With Cane and Savea dead certainties and Papali’i very likely, they do have a lot of bases covered.

                    Add Ioane and Sotutu who the AB coaches seem to play as specialist 6 and 8 respectively, there is the opportunity to select another specialist 6 or 8. One that has a bit of size and loves to run the ball.

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                    #2243

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Tim bugger - hopefully he can get a full preseason in for world cup season 2023.

                    Yeah. His absence virtually guarantees Jacobsen a squad spot now.

                    Does it? It helps his chances but I still think he’ll struggle to squeeze in

                    What loosies do you think they’ll pick?

                    Agree.

                    With Cane and Savea dead certainties and Papali’i very likely, they do have a lot of bases covered.

                    Add Ioane and Sotutu who the AB coaches seem to play as specialist 6 and 8 respectively, there is the opportunity to select another specialist 6 or 8. One that has a bit of size and loves to run the ball.

                    That bait's a bit off.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Cane, Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu certainties. Three who can play 7, three who can play 8, two who can play 6.

                      With Vaa'i able to cover six, there may only be one spot left?

                      Frizell, Jacobson, Robinson competing for one spot?

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                      #2244

                      @Tim and of those 3, Frizell is probably the least versatile, Jacobson the most versatile...so I think he's the other loosie.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Cane, Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu certainties. Three who can play 7, three who can play 8, two who can play 6.

                        With Vaa'i able to cover six, there may only be one spot left?

                        Frizell, Jacobson, Robinson competing for one spot?

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                        Bones
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                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Cane, Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu certainties. Three who can play 7, three who can play 8, two who can play 6.

                        With Vaa'i able to cover six, there may only be one spot left?

                        Frizell, Jacobson, Robinson competing for one spot?

                        I think with all the loosies pretty much established (comparatively) then it'd be a good idea to plump for MMT or Sowakula, I think Robinson will just be unlucky, especially with Vaai showing similar abilities.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Cane, Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu certainties. Three who can play 7, three who can play 8, two who can play 6.

                          With Vaa'i able to cover six, there may only be one spot left?

                          Frizell, Jacobson, Robinson competing for one spot?

                          I think with all the loosies pretty much established (comparatively) then it'd be a good idea to plump for MMT or Sowakula, I think Robinson will just be unlucky, especially with Vaai showing similar abilities.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Cane, Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Sotutu certainties. Three who can play 7, three who can play 8, two who can play 6.

                          With Vaa'i able to cover six, there may only be one spot left?

                          Frizell, Jacobson, Robinson competing for one spot?

                          I think with all the loosies pretty much established (comparatively) then it'd be a good idea to plump for MMT or Sowakula, I think Robinson will just be unlucky, especially with Vaai showing similar abilities.

                          I like the idea of having like for like replacements, so injuries don’t alter the pattern

                          Cane & Papali’i play a similar role
                          Savea & Sotutu play a similar role
                          Akira & ?

                          Ball in hand Mikaele-Tu’u is the most similar to Akira. Get him in, do some coaching, and improve the rest of his game

                          There’s still plenty of versatility with those guys too. For instance I expect Papali’i to start a test or two at 6 etc etc

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                            Fucking Finau

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              Fucking Finau

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                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Fucking Finau

                              Que?

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Fucking Finau

                                Que?

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                                @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Fucking Finau

                                Que?

                                Maybe it's a statement, mariner has pulled?

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  Fucking Finau

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Fucking Finau

                                  I do like his aggression but not this year. We need to run out the ABXV to give him experience at the next level.

                                  I believe they will pick Frizell. I wouldn’t, but they will.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Fucking Finau

                                    I do like his aggression but not this year. We need to run out the ABXV to give him experience at the next level.

                                    I believe they will pick Frizell. I wouldn’t, but they will.

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                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Fucking Finau

                                    I do like his aggression but not this year. We need to run out the ABXV to give him experience at the next level.

                                    I believe they will pick Frizell. I wouldn’t, but they will.

                                    Boooo

                                    Boring

                                    And frizell is shit

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Fucking Finau

                                      I do like his aggression but not this year. We need to run out the ABXV to give him experience at the next level.

                                      I believe they will pick Frizell. I wouldn’t, but they will.

                                      Boooo

                                      Boring

                                      And frizell is shit

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                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Fucking Finau

                                      I do like his aggression but not this year. We need to run out the ABXV to give him experience at the next level.

                                      I believe they will pick Frizell. I wouldn’t, but they will.

                                      Boooo

                                      Boring

                                      And frizell is shit

                                      I dunno why, but they love having a few women beaters in the All Blacks.

                                      MMT would be a selection I would be behind. That wont happen either though, I bet.

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                                        MMT plays like a fitter Sione Lauaki. I’d get him in there this year.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Fucking Finau

                                          I do like his aggression but not this year. We need to run out the ABXV to give him experience at the next level.

                                          I believe they will pick Frizell. I wouldn’t, but they will.

                                          Boooo

                                          Boring

                                          And frizell is shit

                                          I dunno why, but they love having a few women beaters in the All Blacks.

                                          MMT would be a selection I would be behind. That wont happen either though, I bet.

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                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          MMT would be a selection I would be behind. That wont happen either though, I bet.

                                          Though we've got a good 6/7/8 pool, there's a good chance he'll be in the squad, I reckon. Gives him a taste and lets the coaches have a closer look and might make a bench slot for later Tests. Think he'll be on the EOYT as well. Hope so.

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