All Blacks 2022
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.
Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.
For starters Fosters has stuff all insight & he played Papalii at 7 last year, so hardly surprising what I said.
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.
Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.
For starters Fosters has stuff all insight & he played Papalii at 7 last year, so hardly surprising what I said.
It was very surprising that you think Papalii doesn't have the required pace.
Also that you think that a selector who isn't in the inner circle yet has influenced the head coach into a complete mind change. -
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
i think we've established thats actually the criteria for making the squad
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@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
i think we've established thats actually the criteria for making the squad
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
i think we've established thats actually the criteria for making the squad
PGS is a good example of that .
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
i think we've established thats actually the criteria for making the squad
PGS is a good example of that .
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
i think we've established thats actually the criteria for making the squad
PGS is a good example of that .
:shushing_face: thats what i was getting at :winking_face:
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
When DP started a game for CM at ITM level this aspect of his game was laid bare for all to marvel at. He was seemingly everywhere at once.
Stephen Luatua was another that developed this part of his game and partly why he was such a valuable addition to the Bristol Bears.
A side effect of this ability is the value it brings to captaincy. If your players are looking to you they see this 'involvement' and feed off it.
One of the criticisms last year about Blackadder was that he was charging around everywhere like a fly in a jar. I think this year he had tidied that up quite a bit and was working much smarter.
In short, it's not all about speed. -
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
i think we've established thats actually the criteria for making the squad
PGS is a good example of that .
:shushing_face: thats what i was getting at :winking_face:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
i think we've established thats actually the criteria for making the squad
PGS is a good example of that .
:shushing_face: thats what i was getting at :winking_face:
I know I was just pushing it out there more.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
When DP started a game for CM at ITM level this aspect of his game was laid bare for all to marvel at. He was seemingly everywhere at once.
Stephen Luatua was another that developed this part of his game and partly why he was such a valuable addition to the Bristol Bears.
A side effect of this ability is the value it brings to captaincy. If your players are looking to you they see this 'involvement' and feed off it.
One of the criticisms last year about Blackadder was that he was charging around everywhere like a fly in a jar. I think this year he had tidied that up quite a bit and was working much smarter.
In short, it's not all about speed.@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
When DP started a game for CM at ITM level this aspect of his game was laid bare for all to marvel at. He was seemingly everywhere at once.
Stephen Luatua was another that developed this part of his game and partly why he was such a valuable addition to the Bristol Bears.
A side effect of this ability is the value it brings to captaincy. If your players are looking to you they see this 'involvement' and feed off it.
One of the criticisms last year about Blackadder was that he was charging around everywhere like a fly in a jar. I think this year he had tidied that up quite a bit and was working much smarter.
In short, it's not all about speed.Yep perfect example.
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Highlander 2
Canes 3
Chiefs 9
Crusaders 10
Blues 12I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
@ACT-Crusader you can almost see his brain working on that line. Brilliant stuff.
Didn't like you bringing back memories of Mortlock though.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
@ACT-Crusader And the free for all at the ruck, most of the players in it haha
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@ACT-Crusader and how good Ali Williams?!!
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
If Mauger was playing touch Rugby he certainly stopped Mortlock with some authority there. Great D !
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.
Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.
For starters Fosters has stuff all insight & he played Papalii at 7 last year, so hardly surprising what I said.
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.
Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.
For starters Fosters has stuff all insight & he played Papalii at 7 last year, so hardly surprising what I said.
Well regardless he said last year they thought that Papali'i could play at 6. All I meant was well before Schmidt was near team.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
If Mauger was playing touch Rugby he certainly stopped Mortlock with some authority there. Great D !
