All Blacks 2022
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
i think we've established thats actually the criteria for making the squad
PGS is a good example of that .
:shushing_face: thats what i was getting at :winking_face:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Ainsley even been mentioned? I think he's more unlucky than Lomax.
Agree. Both will be in the Māori squad. Ainsley started the season well but his form fell away a little in the back half. We didn't see as much of him running with the ball, which was his strength.
i think we've established thats actually the criteria for making the squad
PGS is a good example of that .
:shushing_face: thats what i was getting at :winking_face:
I know I was just pushing it out there more.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
When DP started a game for CM at ITM level this aspect of his game was laid bare for all to marvel at. He was seemingly everywhere at once.
Stephen Luatua was another that developed this part of his game and partly why he was such a valuable addition to the Bristol Bears.
A side effect of this ability is the value it brings to captaincy. If your players are looking to you they see this 'involvement' and feed off it.
One of the criticisms last year about Blackadder was that he was charging around everywhere like a fly in a jar. I think this year he had tidied that up quite a bit and was working much smarter.
In short, it's not all about speed.@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
When DP started a game for CM at ITM level this aspect of his game was laid bare for all to marvel at. He was seemingly everywhere at once.
Stephen Luatua was another that developed this part of his game and partly why he was such a valuable addition to the Bristol Bears.
A side effect of this ability is the value it brings to captaincy. If your players are looking to you they see this 'involvement' and feed off it.
One of the criticisms last year about Blackadder was that he was charging around everywhere like a fly in a jar. I think this year he had tidied that up quite a bit and was working much smarter.
In short, it's not all about speed.Yep perfect example.
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Highlander 2
Canes 3
Chiefs 9
Crusaders 10
Blues 12I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
@ACT-Crusader you can almost see his brain working on that line. Brilliant stuff.
Didn't like you bringing back memories of Mortlock though.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
@ACT-Crusader And the free for all at the ruck, most of the players in it haha
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@ACT-Crusader and how good Ali Williams?!!
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
If Mauger was playing touch Rugby he certainly stopped Mortlock with some authority there. Great D !
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.
Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.
For starters Fosters has stuff all insight & he played Papalii at 7 last year, so hardly surprising what I said.
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.
Well as Foster talked about it last year, I not sure where you got that idea from.
For starters Fosters has stuff all insight & he played Papalii at 7 last year, so hardly surprising what I said.
Well regardless he said last year they thought that Papali'i could play at 6. All I meant was well before Schmidt was near team.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
If Mauger was playing touch Rugby he certainly stopped Mortlock with some authority there. Great D !
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/elliottnz/status/1536456945850195968?s=20&t=SGGzOqfrd_YHuv2RxvbXGg
From this interview it sounds like Karl Tu'inukuafe will be in the 4N squad too.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader and how good Ali Williams?!!
He had his moments.
Great use of the old ‘knee on the ground’ move by Ali to get that ball
Rodders clearing kick too was not bad either.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 Amazing that he played test rugby with so many obvious deficiencies.
I’m guessing he rests easy in the knowledge that he was a better rugby player than Luke MacAllister ever was.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 Amazing that he played test rugby with so many obvious deficiencies.
I’m guessing he rests easy in the knowledge that he was a better rugby player than Luke MacAllister ever was.
@ACT-Crusader Only in your wildest fantasies.
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Highlander 2
Canes 3
Chiefs 9
Crusaders 10
Blues 12I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs
@Winger said in All Blacks 2022:
Highlander 2
Canes 3
Chiefs 9
Crusaders 10
Blues 12I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs
Feels like way too many Chiefs TBH. Fucking biased Foster.
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anyone else kind of excited about this years international games...prepared to be disappointed with the same issues...but i honestly dont know where we stack up against the rest of the world and so its actually a little exciting to find out
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:
Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7
Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.
He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.
As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.
Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.
Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7
Legend
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.
Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim
Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.
Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim
Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so
I think that cow bell noise was coming from Waikato and nowhere else
