All Blacks 2022
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Something needs to happen.
I can’t remember the exact losses under the original cartel that sparked it (maybe back to back losses against the Boks and Wallabies) and the Fern were all what does Hansen do. Out of it came “FGH” if my memory serves correct.
There was a shake up of responsibilities and from my perspective there was a shift away from some of the issues we were having at the time and a reset of sorts.
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@ACT-Crusader The lineout. Henry taking on the forwards role?
@Tim think so, and Hansen took the backs didn't he, which spurned the fgh didn't it?
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Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
It's an improvement, but in the larger scheme of things might give NZRFU an excuse to say they did something. I am really glass half empty right now.
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Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Hart v Grizz vibes doing that. Who’s in charge?
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Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Joe would be pretty handy in most areas, (apart from attack) but haven't seen or heard anything else. Thought he packed in International to spend more time with his boy who's not too healthy or something?
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Hart v Grizz vibes doing that. Who’s in charge?
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Hart v Grizz vibes doing that. Who’s in charge?
Big difference is Schmidt was asked to join by the head coach. Initially he turned it down and this year changed his mind
The current assistant coaches may not be too happy. Speaking of which, I enjoyed this photo from the build up to the first Test:
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@ACT-Crusader yeah again, IIRC Adidas renegotiated an early, new contract in 2010 or early 2011 (just before the RWC and the furore about jersey cost when people bought them outside NZ) for 10 years, meaning the signed on again in the last year or 2 again, but don't recall much about it, given we have had Ineos, Altrad and a couple other ones come on too (Beats and Tudor?)
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader yeah again, IIRC Adidas renegotiated an early, new contract in 2010 or early 2011 (just before the RWC and the furore about jersey cost when people bought them outside NZ) for 10 years, meaning the signed on again in the last year or 2 again, but don't recall much about it, given we have had Ineos, Altrad and a couple other ones come on too (Beats and Tudor?)
Adidas is about 9 mill a year isn't it? Not sure I think Altrad is more and Ineos about 7 mill for shorts. Also think Adidas have to approve other sponsors on jersey at least.
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@Kirwan shit thats damning
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995
67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10
If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995
67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10
If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)
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@Duluth ah, so we will make the RWC final next year and lose to the hosts in the final...so who we losing to in pool play?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Duluth ah, so we will make the RWC final next year and lose to the hosts in the final...so who we losing to in pool play?
Let's play a France on France. Lose to them in pool play and beat them in the final
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
First AB team to lose a pool game - another record for Fozzie to achieve.
It's a very real possibility. On our current trajectory I would make us heavy underdogs
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FYI for anyone going to the game. Apparently the Stadium is short 500 odd staff than they would normally have for a test of this magnitude.
They are recommending getting to the stadium 90 mins before kick-off to prevent massive delays.
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@Kirwan have to think we are at or very close to tipping point...problem is, if we go over it in a few months, it will be too late, or more importantly, when would be too late to ditch him?
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995
67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10
If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995
67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10
If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)
nice work @Duluth which is probably why the author left that out.. interestingly though Laurie did get us to the 95 WRC final, but none of us see Fozzy doing that
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
Pretty much puts me in the time to sack him camp.
It's actually not just about Foster either. We'd gone Henry -> Hansen and by the end of Hansen's tenure it was pretty clear the ABs needed to freshen up as the continuity thing had run its course and other teams were picking us off. That was the perfect time to bring in someone new but instead we not only went for continuity but we tried to do so under a coach with no previous record of success. Incredibly poor decision from NZ rugby.
