All Blacks 2022
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
sometime i feel a lot of these players wouldn;t even watch rugby if they weren't getting payed to play
That is absolutely nothing new though. A few pros I've known often were largely uninterested in anything rugby in their spare time. And I'm thinking back as far as twenty odd years.
Yeah I’ve heard of pro tennis players, basketballers, Aussie rules players that don’t just sit around and watch the sport they play or follow stats etc, other than the stuff they have to review as part of their match prep.
Jonah didn’t even know who Pinetree was before he became an All Black.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
sometime i feel a lot of these players wouldn;t even watch rugby if they weren't getting payed to play
That is absolutely nothing new though. A few pros I've known often were largely uninterested in anything rugby in their spare time. And I'm thinking back as far as twenty odd years.
Yeah I’ve heard of pro tennis players, basketballers, Aussie rules players that don’t just sit around and watch the sport they play or follow stats etc, other than the stuff they have to review as part of their match prep.
Jonah didn’t even know who Pinetree was before he became an All Black.
Not exactly true.
This is from Jonah's book.
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@taniwharugby great to sell a few jerseys, sneakers and rugby boots no doubt….
@ACT-Crusader musta worked, Adidas came on board in 1999 IIRC.
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Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Something needs to happen.
I can’t remember the exact losses under the original cartel that sparked it (maybe back to back losses against the Boks and Wallabies) and the Fern were all what does Hansen do. Out of it came “FGH” if my memory serves correct.
There was a shake up of responsibilities and from my perspective there was a shift away from some of the issues we were having at the time and a reset of sorts.
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@ACT-Crusader musta worked, Adidas came on board in 1999 IIRC.
@taniwharugby no doubt the All Blacks - Adidas deal was massive in terms of marketability and branding. IMO it bought us out of the dark ages of the triple C and put us on the global stage up there with massive sporting clubs that also wore the three stripes.
No doubt over that time there have been other big brands that have tried, by Adidas has remained strong looking from the outside in.
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@taniwharugby no doubt the All Blacks - Adidas deal was massive in terms of marketability and branding. IMO it bought us out of the dark ages of the triple C and put us on the global stage up there with massive sporting clubs that also wore the three stripes.
No doubt over that time there have been other big brands that have tried, by Adidas has remained strong looking from the outside in.
@ACT-Crusader yeah again, IIRC Adidas renegotiated an early, new contract in 2010 or early 2011 (just before the RWC and the furore about jersey cost when people bought them outside NZ) for 10 years, meaning the signed on again in the last year or 2 again, but don't recall much about it, given we have had Ineos, Altrad and a couple other ones come on too (Beats and Tudor?)
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Something needs to happen.
I can’t remember the exact losses under the original cartel that sparked it (maybe back to back losses against the Boks and Wallabies) and the Fern were all what does Hansen do. Out of it came “FGH” if my memory serves correct.
There was a shake up of responsibilities and from my perspective there was a shift away from some of the issues we were having at the time and a reset of sorts.
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@ACT-Crusader The lineout. Henry taking on the forwards role?
@Tim think so, and Hansen took the backs didn't he, which spurned the fgh didn't it?
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Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
It's an improvement, but in the larger scheme of things might give NZRFU an excuse to say they did something. I am really glass half empty right now.
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Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Hart v Grizz vibes doing that. Who’s in charge?
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Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Joe would be pretty handy in most areas, (apart from attack) but haven't seen or heard anything else. Thought he packed in International to spend more time with his boy who's not too healthy or something?
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Hart v Grizz vibes doing that. Who’s in charge?
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,
And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .
Hart v Grizz vibes doing that. Who’s in charge?
Big difference is Schmidt was asked to join by the head coach. Initially he turned it down and this year changed his mind
The current assistant coaches may not be too happy. Speaking of which, I enjoyed this photo from the build up to the first Test:
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@ACT-Crusader yeah again, IIRC Adidas renegotiated an early, new contract in 2010 or early 2011 (just before the RWC and the furore about jersey cost when people bought them outside NZ) for 10 years, meaning the signed on again in the last year or 2 again, but don't recall much about it, given we have had Ineos, Altrad and a couple other ones come on too (Beats and Tudor?)
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader yeah again, IIRC Adidas renegotiated an early, new contract in 2010 or early 2011 (just before the RWC and the furore about jersey cost when people bought them outside NZ) for 10 years, meaning the signed on again in the last year or 2 again, but don't recall much about it, given we have had Ineos, Altrad and a couple other ones come on too (Beats and Tudor?)
Adidas is about 9 mill a year isn't it? Not sure I think Altrad is more and Ineos about 7 mill for shorts. Also think Adidas have to approve other sponsors on jersey at least.
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@Kirwan shit thats damning
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995
67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10
If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995
67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10
If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)
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@Duluth ah, so we will make the RWC final next year and lose to the hosts in the final...so who we losing to in pool play?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Duluth ah, so we will make the RWC final next year and lose to the hosts in the final...so who we losing to in pool play?
Let's play a France on France. Lose to them in pool play and beat them in the final
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
First AB team to lose a pool game - another record for Fozzie to achieve.
It's a very real possibility. On our current trajectory I would make us heavy underdogs
