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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,

    And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:

    Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,

    And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .

    Hart v Grizz vibes doing that. Who’s in charge?

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    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

      Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,

      And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .

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      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:

      Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,

      And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .

      Joe would be pretty handy in most areas, (apart from attack) but haven't seen or heard anything else. Thought he packed in International to spend more time with his boy who's not too healthy or something?

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:

        Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,

        And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .

        Hart v Grizz vibes doing that. Who’s in charge?

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        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:

        Apologies if its already been discussed , was listening to a bit of SENZ while driving ,

        And they were saying , big rumors Joe is officially going to be made part of the coaching group and will have an official role such as defense or similar , perhaps at someones expense .

        Hart v Grizz vibes doing that. Who’s in charge?

        Big difference is Schmidt was asked to join by the head coach. Initially he turned it down and this year changed his mind

        The current assistant coaches may not be too happy. Speaking of which, I enjoyed this photo from the build up to the first Test:

        Screen Shot 2022-07-14 at 2.31.23 PM.png

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @ACT-Crusader yeah again, IIRC Adidas renegotiated an early, new contract in 2010 or early 2011 (just before the RWC and the furore about jersey cost when people bought them outside NZ) for 10 years, meaning the signed on again in the last year or 2 again, but don't recall much about it, given we have had Ineos, Altrad and a couple other ones come on too (Beats and Tudor?)

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          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

          @ACT-Crusader yeah again, IIRC Adidas renegotiated an early, new contract in 2010 or early 2011 (just before the RWC and the furore about jersey cost when people bought them outside NZ) for 10 years, meaning the signed on again in the last year or 2 again, but don't recall much about it, given we have had Ineos, Altrad and a couple other ones come on too (Beats and Tudor?)

          Adidas is about 9 mill a year isn't it? Not sure I think Altrad is more and Ineos about 7 mill for shorts. Also think Adidas have to approve other sponsors on jersey at least.

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            https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

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              @Kirwan shit thats damning

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

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                #3423

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

                Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995

                67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10

                If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                  https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

                  Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995

                  67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10

                  If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @Duluth ah, so we will make the RWC final next year and lose to the hosts in the final...so who we losing to in pool play?

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Duluth ah, so we will make the RWC final next year and lose to the hosts in the final...so who we losing to in pool play?

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Duluth ah, so we will make the RWC final next year and lose to the hosts in the final...so who we losing to in pool play?

                    Let's play a France on France. Lose to them in pool play and beat them in the final 😀

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                      First AB team to lose a pool game - another record for Fozzie to achieve.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        First AB team to lose a pool game - another record for Fozzie to achieve.

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                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                        First AB team to lose a pool game - another record for Fozzie to achieve.

                        It's a very real possibility. On our current trajectory I would make us heavy underdogs

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                          Pretty much puts me in the time to sack him camp.

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                            FYI for anyone going to the game. Apparently the Stadium is short 500 odd staff than they would normally have for a test of this magnitude.

                            They are recommending getting to the stadium 90 mins before kick-off to prevent massive delays.

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                            • KirwanK Kirwan

                              Pretty much puts me in the time to sack him camp.

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                              #3430

                              @Kirwan have to think we are at or very close to tipping point...problem is, if we go over it in a few months, it will be too late, or more importantly, when would be too late to ditch him?

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

                                Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995

                                67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10

                                If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)

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                                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

                                Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995

                                67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10

                                If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)

                                nice work @Duluth which is probably why the author left that out.. interestingly though Laurie did get us to the 95 WRC final, but none of us see Fozzy doing that

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                                  https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1541909836265950

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    Pretty much puts me in the time to sack him camp.

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                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Pretty much puts me in the time to sack him camp.

                                    It's actually not just about Foster either. We'd gone Henry -> Hansen and by the end of Hansen's tenure it was pretty clear the ABs needed to freshen up as the continuity thing had run its course and other teams were picking us off. That was the perfect time to bring in someone new but instead we not only went for continuity but we tried to do so under a coach with no previous record of success. Incredibly poor decision from NZ rugby.

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                                    • B bayimports

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

                                      Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995

                                      67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10

                                      If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)

                                      nice work @Duluth which is probably why the author left that out.. interestingly though Laurie did get us to the 95 WRC final, but none of us see Fozzy doing that

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                                      @bayimports said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

                                      Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995

                                      67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10

                                      If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)

                                      nice work @Duluth which is probably why the author left that out.. interestingly though Laurie did get us to the 95 WRC final, but none of us see Fozzy doing that

                                      I'd say the author is focusing on the professional era which is a fair point to draw the line in terms of how far back he goes. Foster is by a country mile our worst coach in that era, and it's not even close.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

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                                        #3435

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

                                        Can't upvote that.

                                        Fully onboard with clearing out the coaches though.

                                        If I'm honest, it's Mooar who needs to go. I honestly believe that our attack the heart of the problem. The defense sucks too, but our attack is worse.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg

                                          Can't upvote that.

                                          Fully onboard with clearing out the coaches though.

                                          If I'm honest, it's Mooar who needs to go. I honestly believe that our attack the heart of the problem. The defense sucks too, but our attack is worse.

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                                          Kirwan
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                                          @gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.

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