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  • bayimportsB Offline
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    #720

    As for Ricky, I cant see how the NRL can protect him this time..even after the belated apology.. will be interesting to see "if" anything happens

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      @mariner4life I actually thought the warriors were improving in the short period under Payten. He wasn't so fussed about the attack, but punished them when they got the defence wrong. So we were still losing, but it looked like they were not giving up. I suspect he knew that the attack would come once he sorted out their attitude. That has all gone.

      The team is already under the mindset that the season is over and are playing like it. I don't think the roster is a complete shambles, but we do not have rockstars throughout the spine and SJ has been one of the worst HB's in the comp.

      But tough and smart decisions next year need to be made, don't let guys go without getting cash for them, but be ruthless about what is best for the club, none of that is happening

      Stacy is not the answer, he has admitted he is more comfortable as an assistant and it shows. I just hope Andrew Webster gets a chance to show what he can do without the owner getting in his way

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      @bayimports i reckon you have two options if you are at the bottom

      Focus on defense, keep the score low, set effort standards, and build off that

      or

      focus on your attack. score points. stress the opposition, and build the defense later. Neither is wrong

      Warriors can't attack and won't defend.

      I watched Trindall play for teh Sharks on Saturday, he had a whale of a game. He's their backup half, nothing more. Find those guys, young, bit of spark, want to play 80 minutes every week.
      Stop this circle of failure that involves buying players that the other shit teams don't want, or old guys looking for a homecoming and a pay packet.

      I read a great article the other day that summed it up. In club land you are either building a team to contend for a premiership; contending for a premiership; or sliding down after your window shut.
      The warriors right now are none of those things. There was no window. we are not in contention. And the roster is chock full of guys who will not be in our next contending side. This is where you start your decision making.

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      • BovidaeB Offline
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        #722

        If the Warriors are going to lose they might as well lose with a Kiwi roster and develop local depth. No marquee Aussie will come to NZ so why bother signing average players.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @bayimports i reckon you have two options if you are at the bottom

          Focus on defense, keep the score low, set effort standards, and build off that

          or

          focus on your attack. score points. stress the opposition, and build the defense later. Neither is wrong

          Warriors can't attack and won't defend.

          I watched Trindall play for teh Sharks on Saturday, he had a whale of a game. He's their backup half, nothing more. Find those guys, young, bit of spark, want to play 80 minutes every week.
          Stop this circle of failure that involves buying players that the other shit teams don't want, or old guys looking for a homecoming and a pay packet.

          I read a great article the other day that summed it up. In club land you are either building a team to contend for a premiership; contending for a premiership; or sliding down after your window shut.
          The warriors right now are none of those things. There was no window. we are not in contention. And the roster is chock full of guys who will not be in our next contending side. This is where you start your decision making.

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          #723

          @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

          @bayimports i reckon you have two options if you are at the bottom

          Focus on defense, keep the score low, set effort standards, and build off that

          or

          focus on your attack. score points. stress the opposition, and build the defense later. Neither is wrong

          Warriors can't attack and won't defend.

          I watched Trindall play for teh Sharks on Saturday, he had a whale of a game. He's their backup half, nothing more. Find those guys, young, bit of spark, want to play 80 minutes every week.
          Stop this circle of failure that involves buying players that the other shit teams don't want, or old guys looking for a homecoming and a pay packet.

          I read a great article the other day that summed it up. In club land you are either building a team to contend for a premiership; contending for a premiership; or sliding down after your window shut.
          The warriors right now are none of those things. There was no window. we are not in contention. And the roster is chock full of guys who will not be in our next contending side. This is where you start your decision making.

          The only reason Trindall is even playing is because the Warriors signed their best young half and since Metcalf made that decision he was not given another first grade chance since. In fact they have tried to get him to backflip out of his contract twice. Secondly the warriors signed Volkman who is still under 20 and was incredibly highly rated at the Roosters, if it wasn't for Walker he would have likely had a start. Now through various reasons we have not even see this kid play at seven, only six and he looks raw, but nevertheless neither are old players that no one wants so cant throw your logic over the squad.

          Our centers are woeful and I don't see any improvement in the recruits. but we are not just recruiting guys no one wants

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          • bayimportsB bayimports

            @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

            @bayimports i reckon you have two options if you are at the bottom

            Focus on defense, keep the score low, set effort standards, and build off that

            or

            focus on your attack. score points. stress the opposition, and build the defense later. Neither is wrong

            Warriors can't attack and won't defend.

            I watched Trindall play for teh Sharks on Saturday, he had a whale of a game. He's their backup half, nothing more. Find those guys, young, bit of spark, want to play 80 minutes every week.
            Stop this circle of failure that involves buying players that the other shit teams don't want, or old guys looking for a homecoming and a pay packet.

            I read a great article the other day that summed it up. In club land you are either building a team to contend for a premiership; contending for a premiership; or sliding down after your window shut.
            The warriors right now are none of those things. There was no window. we are not in contention. And the roster is chock full of guys who will not be in our next contending side. This is where you start your decision making.

            The only reason Trindall is even playing is because the Warriors signed their best young half and since Metcalf made that decision he was not given another first grade chance since. In fact they have tried to get him to backflip out of his contract twice. Secondly the warriors signed Volkman who is still under 20 and was incredibly highly rated at the Roosters, if it wasn't for Walker he would have likely had a start. Now through various reasons we have not even see this kid play at seven, only six and he looks raw, but nevertheless neither are old players that no one wants so cant throw your logic over the squad.

            Our centers are woeful and I don't see any improvement in the recruits. but we are not just recruiting guys no one wants

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            @bayimports no you're right we are not. but it does make up a lot of who we sign. I am waiting to see which semi-retired ex-kiwi we sign on $650k this year. Proctor is available, he played for NZ AND the Storm, he's overqualified.

            As you say, we signed young fullas. play them! even raw would they be any fucking worse than SJ? Or has the entire club just written the covid period off? i have sympathy for that attitude.

            The new coach has to basically rebuild the club if he wants any success. And all with the knowledge he will probably get fired before it bears any fruit

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @bayimports no you're right we are not. but it does make up a lot of who we sign. I am waiting to see which semi-retired ex-kiwi we sign on $650k this year. Proctor is available, he played for NZ AND the Storm, he's overqualified.

              As you say, we signed young fullas. play them! even raw would they be any fucking worse than SJ? Or has the entire club just written the covid period off? i have sympathy for that attitude.

              The new coach has to basically rebuild the club if he wants any success. And all with the knowledge he will probably get fired before it bears any fruit

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              #725

              @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

              @bayimports no you're right we are not. but it does make up a lot of who we sign. I am waiting to see which semi-retired ex-kiwi we sign on $650k this year. Proctor is available, he played for NZ AND the Storm, he's overqualified.

              As you say, we signed young fullas. play them! even raw would they be any fucking worse than SJ? Or has the entire club just written the covid period off? i have sympathy for that attitude.

              The new coach has to basically rebuild the club if he wants any success. And all with the knowledge he will probably get fired before it bears any fruit

              ok, yep we are very well aligned, even on fears of signing that deadshit although I am hearing he is going to the UK....please

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                #726

                if nothing else, the term "weak gutted dog person" has made NRL social media fucking hilarious this weekend.

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                  #727

                  i was sort of wondering how Sticky's super loyal media mates were gonna defend this

                  So far i have seen "yes, but, charity work!"
                  "you can't suspend him, we don't live in China"
                  "this is really the NRL's fault for making coaches do press conferences"

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    i was sort of wondering how Sticky's super loyal media mates were gonna defend this

                    So far i have seen "yes, but, charity work!"
                    "you can't suspend him, we don't live in China"
                    "this is really the NRL's fault for making coaches do press conferences"

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                    #728

                    @mariner4life buzz said he needed to be punished, but he painted a picture first of a nice guy with a charity blah blah, before saying he still needs to be punished

                    lol you can see why he has so many lives

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                      #729

                      The NRL fraternity - commentators, ex players, journos - run the greatest protection racket in sport. Say and do basically anything and you will have plenty of people running interference or selling your “good” qualities for you.

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                        #730

                        lol normally a terrible affair talking about trades etc, but foxsports "blog with hoops" session today was a funny read. James Hooper wrote the piece earlier making the statement, that Australia isn't China or Russia. Most fans let him and his media mates have both barrels today..quite an entertaining sledging session in general against the tone deaf media

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                        • bayimportsB bayimports

                          lol normally a terrible affair talking about trades etc, but foxsports "blog with hoops" session today was a funny read. James Hooper wrote the piece earlier making the statement, that Australia isn't China or Russia. Most fans let him and his media mates have both barrels today..quite an entertaining sledging session in general against the tone deaf media

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                          @bayimports ordinarily avoid it like the plague but maybe i'll give it a hoon

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                            that was a fun read.

                            You just know that absolute deadshit Hooper typed that with that stupid sideways grin on his face as if he's just said something really profound.

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                              just hearing Eli Katoa to the storm, I know the warriors were shopping him around but I am surprised at this one, as he was going beast mode in the cup and obviously not coaches favourite, but this will be one guy who will be very strong in a different system. Shame, but all the best if true

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                                just hearing Eli Katoa to the storm, I know the warriors were shopping him around but I am surprised at this one, as he was going beast mode in the cup and obviously not coaches favourite, but this will be one guy who will be very strong in a different system. Shame, but all the best if true

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                                @bayimports said in NRL 2022:

                                just hearing Eli Katoa to the storm, I know the warriors were shopping him around but I am surprised at this one, as he was going beast mode in the cup and obviously not coaches favourite, but this will be one guy who will be very strong in a different system. Shame, but all the best if true

                                Everyone is stronger once they leave the Warriors system

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @bayimports said in NRL 2022:

                                  just hearing Eli Katoa to the storm, I know the warriors were shopping him around but I am surprised at this one, as he was going beast mode in the cup and obviously not coaches favourite, but this will be one guy who will be very strong in a different system. Shame, but all the best if true

                                  Everyone is stronger once they leave the Warriors system

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                                  #735

                                  @canefan except SJ and we still took him back 😉

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                                  • bayimportsB bayimports

                                    @canefan except SJ and we still took him back 😉

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                                    @bayimports said in NRL 2022:

                                    @canefan except SJ and we still took him back 😉

                                    Of course we take the lame ducks back

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                                      Listening to Kent tonight and there seems to be more than meets the eye with this and his opinion is if Sticky comes out and explains what happens all those years ago the public tide would turn in his favour.

                                      No matter what happened and it could be serious and it sounds like family members etc, all you need to do in a media conference when asked a direct question about the incident is to say “I don’t want to comment”.

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                                        Listening to Kent tonight and there seems to be more than meets the eye with this and his opinion is if Sticky comes out and explains what happens all those years ago the public tide would turn in his favour.

                                        No matter what happened and it could be serious and it sounds like family members etc, all you need to do in a media conference when asked a direct question about the incident is to say “I don’t want to comment”.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in NRL 2022:

                                        Listening to Kent tonight and there seems to be more than meets the eye with this and his opinion is if Sticky comes out and explains what happens all those years ago the public tide would turn in his favour.

                                        Hard to tell what bogans will be swayed by, but I couldn't care less if Salmon murdered the Stuart's family dog. I'd quite happily believe Kent doesn't know either.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in NRL 2022:

                                          Listening to Kent tonight and there seems to be more than meets the eye with this and his opinion is if Sticky comes out and explains what happens all those years ago the public tide would turn in his favour.

                                          Hard to tell what bogans will be swayed by, but I couldn't care less if Salmon murdered the Stuart's family dog. I'd quite happily believe Kent doesn't know either.

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                                          @antipodean Kent and Sticky are actually good mates, so whilst he talks smack most of the time I'm willing to listen in on this one. It looks like the NRL are trying to get ahead of it and will suspend him for a game regardless.

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