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Springboks v All Blacks 2

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    Practising leg drive I see. Hope to actually see some in the game.

    Are the two Sams telegraphing a pop pass close to the ruck?

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      When’s the team named?

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        When’s the team named?

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        @pakman think they are gonna run a NZ-Wide poll about who to select.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          Practising leg drive I see. Hope to actually see some in the game.

          Are the two Sams telegraphing a pop pass close to the ruck?

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          @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

          Practising leg drive I see. Hope to actually see some in the game.

          Are the two Sams telegraphing a pop pass close to the ruck?

          That's what I am wondering? Thought it was Thursday NZ time

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            @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            Practising leg drive I see. Hope to actually see some in the game.

            Are the two Sams telegraphing a pop pass close to the ruck?

            That's what I am wondering? Thought it was Thursday NZ time

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            @SouthernMann said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

            Practising leg drive I see. Hope to actually see some in the game.

            Are the two Sams telegraphing a pop pass close to the ruck?

            That's what I am wondering? Thought it was Thursday NZ time

            Last week, 10 am UK time, Thursday.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              Practising leg drive I see. Hope to actually see some in the game.

              Are the two Sams telegraphing a pop pass close to the ruck?

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              @Crucial I shock my head at this. Is this practicing deceptive passing so we fool the Boks next game?

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                @Crucial I shock my head at this. Is this practicing deceptive passing so we fool the Boks next game?

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                @broughie said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                @Crucial I shock my head at this. Is this practicing deceptive passing so we fool the Boks next game?

                Passing? What fresh new hell of a tactic is this thing you call passing?
                Not seen much in the forwards loosies or at 10 or midfield so could have the element of surprise..

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                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300659068/springboks-make-late-reshuffle-after-hooker-bongi-mbonambi-ruled-out-for-ellis-park

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                    Looks to me like Ritchie will start. Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

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                    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                    Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                    Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

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                      In order to strengthen the forwards cohesion, why not try established combinations ? This means the Chiefs front row (Ross - Taukeiaho - Ta'avao with the Crusaders front row on the bench Bower - Taylor - Newell) + the Crusaders locks (Barrett - Whitelock with Va'ai on the bench) + the Blues loose forwards (Ioane - Papalii - Sotutu with Savea on the bench) ? It has zero chance to happen though.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                        Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                        Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

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                        @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                        @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                        Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                        Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                        He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                        Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

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                        • C cgrant

                          In order to strengthen the forwards cohesion, why not try established combinations ? This means the Chiefs front row (Ross - Taukeiaho - Ta'avao with the Crusaders front row on the bench Bower - Taylor - Newell) + the Crusaders locks (Barrett - Whitelock with Va'ai on the bench) + the Blues loose forwards (Ioane - Papalii - Sotutu with Savea on the bench) ? It has zero chance to happen though.

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                          @cgrant said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                          In order to strengthen the forwards cohesion, why not try established combinations ? This means the Chiefs front row (Ross - Taukeiaho - Ta'avao with the Crusaders front row on the bench Bower - Taylor - Newell) + the Crusaders locks (Barrett - Whitelock with Va'ai on the bench) + the Blues loose forwards (Ioane - Papalii - Sotutu with Savea on the bench) ? It has zero chance to happen though.

                          Carry that through and you end up with 9-13 being Blues.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                            @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                            Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                            Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                            He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                            Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

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                            @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                            @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                            @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                            Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                            Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                            He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                            Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

                            and Frizzell does?

                            I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

                            But i am convinced by the absolute mountain of evidence that Frizzell isn't

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                              Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                              He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                              Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

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                              @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                              Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                              He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                              Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

                              Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

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                                In order to strengthen the forwards cohesion, why not try established combinations ? This means the Chiefs front row (Ross - Taukeiaho - Ta'avao with the Crusaders front row on the bench Bower - Taylor - Newell) + the Crusaders locks (Barrett - Whitelock with Va'ai on the bench) + the Blues loose forwards (Ioane - Papalii - Sotutu with Savea on the bench) ? It has zero chance to happen though.

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                                @cgrant said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                In order to strengthen the forwards cohesion, why not try established combinations ? This means the Chiefs front row (Ross - Taukeiaho - Ta'avao with the Crusaders front row on the bench Bower - Taylor - Newell) + the Crusaders locks (Barrett - Whitelock with Va'ai on the bench) + the Blues loose forwards (Ioane - Papalii - Sotutu with Savea on the bench) ? It has zero chance to happen though.

                                i get the idea but

                                The problems are not that they aren't used to playing together, it's that they aren't used to playing this way together. We're gonna have the same problems with different faces. You aren't picking the Blues loosies to play like the Blues loosies, you are picking 3 guys who play at the Blues to be the AB loosies.

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                                  @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                                  Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                                  He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                                  Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

                                  and Frizzell does?

                                  I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

                                  But i am convinced by the absolute mountain of evidence that Frizzell isn't

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                                  @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

                                  Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

                                  Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

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                                    @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

                                    Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

                                    Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

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                                    @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

                                    Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

                                    Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

                                    6 runs for 15 metres and he was lauded….

                                    Next we’ll be claiming moral victories when we have close losses.

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                                      @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

                                      Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

                                      Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

                                      6 runs for 15 metres and he was lauded….

                                      Next we’ll be claiming moral victories when we have close losses.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                      close losses

                                      Imagine how good the performance would have to be to achieve that.

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                                        @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

                                        Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

                                        Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

                                        6 runs for 15 metres and he was lauded….

                                        Next we’ll be claiming moral victories when we have close losses.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                        I am not yet 100% convinced Ioane is the answer at 6

                                        Thing is though, with the way the team is going, are we even convinced of anyone? Bower was going from strength to strength and even he is now on a downward slide. Jordan is nowhere, despite him being the big showpiece last year. Scooter goes in fits and starts and doesn't know if he's a 6 or 4. Smith was in the top couple of HB's in the world last year, now he's just a hospital pass merchant. Beauden, the guy who's been world player of the year twice is reminiscent of Donald. The list goes on and on...

                                        Taukieaho is showing his worth, but even he looks pretty average surrounded by no support.

                                        6 runs for 15 metres and he was lauded….

                                        Next we’ll be claiming moral victories when we have close losses.

                                        Scott Barrett is lauded for less. 😉

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                          @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                          @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                          Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                                          Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                                          He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                                          Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

                                          Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

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                                          @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                          @Crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                          @Nepia said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                          @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                          Hunch that Frizell will get 6.

                                          Sadly I expect this to be the case. This might be my breaking point with this team. 😉

                                          He creates points though. Even if it is both ways.
                                          Some may not like the truth but Akira doesn’t cut it. Reaction time too slow at this level.

                                          Why on earth would you claim Akira doesn't cut it when discussing Frizzell coming in? He got points as he was a fresh replacement able to keep up with the attack. In the last Irish test Akira created points out of strength and speed.

                                          The first part of the post was obviously a joke (both ways)
                                          The second a possible reason for looking elsewhere. There wasn’t much strength and speed in Akiras play on the weekend

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