Foster, Robertson etc
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@mariner4life said in Foster:
@Donsteppa said in Foster:
I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...
Please don't.
There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.Gats at the Chiefs may not have been a success, but I'd take him in a heartbeat over Foster. He knows how to win games at the top level, and gets teams up. You dno't get picked as a multi-Lions coach for nothing.
Given both his approach to the Chiefs role and his results, I'd like to see more of him back in the NZ environment first. Not a stance I'd normally take, but his Chiefs tenure left questions. While I'd also have Gatland as coach instead of Foster, thankfully it isn't a two-choice decision
i think maybe we just need to never hire a chiefs coach for the ABs ever again.
No Rennie (or Wayne Smith)??
@nostrildamus Smith -Canterbury?
Rennie- the Tu/Wellington? -
@mariner4life said in Foster:
@Donsteppa said in Foster:
I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...
Please don't.
There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.Gats at the Chiefs may not have been a success, but I'd take him in a heartbeat over Foster. He knows how to win games at the top level, and gets teams up. You dno't get picked as a multi-Lions coach for nothing.
Given both his approach to the Chiefs role and his results, I'd like to see more of him back in the NZ environment first. Not a stance I'd normally take, but his Chiefs tenure left questions. While I'd also have Gatland as coach instead of Foster, thankfully it isn't a two-choice decision
i think maybe we just need to never hire a chiefs coach for the ABs ever again.
No Rennie (or Wayne Smith)??
@nostrildamus said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
@Donsteppa said in Foster:
I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...
Please don't.
There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.Gats at the Chiefs may not have been a success, but I'd take him in a heartbeat over Foster. He knows how to win games at the top level, and gets teams up. You dno't get picked as a multi-Lions coach for nothing.
Given both his approach to the Chiefs role and his results, I'd like to see more of him back in the NZ environment first. Not a stance I'd normally take, but his Chiefs tenure left questions. While I'd also have Gatland as coach instead of Foster, thankfully it isn't a two-choice decision
i think maybe we just need to never hire a chiefs coach for the ABs ever again.
No Rennie (or Wayne Smith)??
Rennie coaches the Wallabies he is dead to me
Wayne Smith was a shit head coach. He's a Robin not a batman
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I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
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I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
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I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
good point. a severance package money spinner !
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I'll be pleased to see the back of Holland. But who will replace him. Maybe Plumtree will return. Although I always prefer him as an assistant coach. Boyd is back so would be another option.
Gibbes did well enough as Wellington coach. Waikato coach Ross Filipo and Ieremia are 2 NPC coach options
If Crusaders coach Scott Robertson replaces Ian Foster as All Blacks coach, it's understood Leon MacDonald and Jason Holland will be among those recruited as his assistants.
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I'll be pleased to see the back of Holland. But who will replace him. Maybe Plumtree will return. Although I always prefer him as an assistant coach. Boyd is back so would be another option.
Gibbes did well enough as Wellington coach. Waikato coach Ross Filipo and Ieremia are 2 NPC coach options
If Crusaders coach Scott Robertson replaces Ian Foster as All Blacks coach, it's understood Leon MacDonald and Jason Holland will be among those recruited as his assistants.
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I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
Wait, we're calling a game against an at home Japan with coaches we could only dream of as a gimme? I would be seriously concerned.
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@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
Wait, we're calling a game against an at home Japan with coaches we could only dream of as a gimme? I would be seriously concerned.
@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
Wait, we're calling a game against an at home Japan with coaches we could only dream of as a gimme? I would be seriously concerned.
All bets are off if Fozzie is still in charge. Unless the ABs come out playing with a game plan like the Crusaders this weekend
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I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
Yay, more SRA, just what our players need…
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I'll be pleased to see the back of Holland. But who will replace him. Maybe Plumtree will return. Although I always prefer him as an assistant coach. Boyd is back so would be another option.
Gibbes did well enough as Wellington coach. Waikato coach Ross Filipo and Ieremia are 2 NPC coach options
If Crusaders coach Scott Robertson replaces Ian Foster as All Blacks coach, it's understood Leon MacDonald and Jason Holland will be among those recruited as his assistants.
I'll be pleased to see the back of Holland. But who will replace him. Maybe Plumtree will return. Although I always prefer him as an assistant coach. Boyd is back so would be another option.
Gibbes did well enough as Wellington coach. Waikato coach Ross Filipo and Ieremia are 2 NPC coach options
If Crusaders coach Scott Robertson replaces Ian Foster as All Blacks coach, it's understood Leon MacDonald and Jason Holland will be among those recruited as his assistants.
I don't think the rugby board will see it past, 3x coaches at saders, 1x canes, 1x blues, plus a new conditioning coach, mental skills coach, new team manager, etc, etc... to replace all the current contracted assistants/wider team management, that's why i'm leaning more towards the rumor mill. 1x new coach in, foster out, through till the world cup - far less mess, pay-outs for all current assistants... they will surely take the easy way out.
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I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...
Please don't.
There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.He does know how to get limited teams to RWC SFs though
Sorry @MiketheSnowI wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...
Please don't.
There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.He does know how to get limited teams to RWC SFs though
Sorry @MiketheSnowNone taken
With all the talk of Robertson surely Gatland and Schmidt should be the next cabs off the rank?
Especially going in to a WC
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I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
The way you're going at the moment it could result in the first loss to Japan
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I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...
Please don't.
There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.He does know how to get limited teams to RWC SFs though
Sorry @MiketheSnowNone taken
With all the talk of Robertson surely Gatland and Schmidt should be the next cabs off the rank?
Especially going in to a WC
@MiketheSnow said in Foster:
I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...
Please don't.
There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.He does know how to get limited teams to RWC SFs though
Sorry @MiketheSnowNone taken
With all the talk of Robertson surely Gatland and Schmidt should be the next cabs off the rank?
Especially going in to a WC
Have you noticed how poorly the Chiefs have played under Gatland?
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@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
The way you're going at the moment it could result in the first loss to Japan
@MiketheSnow said in Foster:
@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
I noticed the Allblacks have shoe horned in a test against Japan on October 29th at short notice before the EOYT tour starts proper.
First thing that came into my mind is they wanted to give the new coach another match to gain momentum.
More likely to make up the earnings which the current shit-show is costing them.
The Japan game only allows a certain number of players to get into the right patterns, and under no pressure. A game of Possibles vs Probables would be both higher pressure and give more players a run. But not earn the same amount.
The way you're going at the moment it could result in the first loss to Japan
Especially with Joseph coaching them. He'd love to prove a point
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@MiketheSnow said in Foster:
I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...
Please don't.
There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.He does know how to get limited teams to RWC SFs though
Sorry @MiketheSnowNone taken
With all the talk of Robertson surely Gatland and Schmidt should be the next cabs off the rank?
Especially going in to a WC
Have you noticed how poorly the Chiefs have played under Gatland?
He seems to have had trouble adapting back into NZ rugby.@MiketheSnow said in Foster:
I wonder what Gatland might be quietly doing ...
Please don't.
There's one coach with a worse record at the Chiefs than Fosterand that's our mate Wazza.He does know how to get limited teams to RWC SFs though
Sorry @MiketheSnowNone taken
With all the talk of Robertson surely Gatland and Schmidt should be the next cabs off the rank?
Especially going in to a WC
Have you noticed how poorly the Chiefs have played under Gatland?
He seems to have had trouble adapting back into NZ rugby.He had no trouble coaching the best of NH to a drawn series with NZ and was within one kick of the same with SA.
Say what you want about his negative/conservative tactics; they work at test level. Strong set piece, strong defence, strong kicking game with a sprinkling of magic dust.
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Skipping past many much anti Foster bullshit and posting a link to a podcast I listened to today ..
https://timharford.com/2022/06/cautionary-tales-the-french-knights-guide-to-corporate-culture/
Might take a while to realise the relevance. I'll come back in the morning and if I have time will discuss further.
@Victor-Meldrew I'm pretty sure gets this.
But have a listen to the definition of insanity..
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Skipping past many much anti Foster bullshit and posting a link to a podcast I listened to today ..
https://timharford.com/2022/06/cautionary-tales-the-french-knights-guide-to-corporate-culture/
Might take a while to realise the relevance. I'll come back in the morning and if I have time will discuss further.
@Victor-Meldrew I'm pretty sure gets this.
But have a listen to the definition of insanity..
is this a hot sauce or made up media clickbait?
Should he take over from Foster, Robertson will want to hand-pick the assistants he believes can help produce a team capable of winning the World Cup in France next year. It's understood MacDonald and Holland, who coach the Blues and the Hurricanes, Ryan and Crusaders assistant coach Scott Hansen have been short-listed.I don't see any evidence anywhere for this..
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Skipping past many much anti Foster bullshit and posting a link to a podcast I listened to today ..
https://timharford.com/2022/06/cautionary-tales-the-french-knights-guide-to-corporate-culture/
Might take a while to realise the relevance. I'll come back in the morning and if I have time will discuss further.
@Victor-Meldrew I'm pretty sure gets this.
But have a listen to the definition of insanity..
Skipping past many much anti Foster bullshit and posting a link to a podcast I listened to today ..
https://timharford.com/2022/06/cautionary-tales-the-french-knights-guide-to-corporate-culture/
Might take a while to realise the relevance. I'll come back in the morning and if I have time will discuss further.
@Victor-Meldrew I'm pretty sure gets this.
But have a listen to the definition of insanity..
V interesting
Culture, grows quickly
A bastard to get rid of
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is this a hot sauce or made up media clickbait?
Should he take over from Foster, Robertson will want to hand-pick the assistants he believes can help produce a team capable of winning the World Cup in France next year. It's understood MacDonald and Holland, who coach the Blues and the Hurricanes, Ryan and Crusaders assistant coach Scott Hansen have been short-listed.I don't see any evidence anywhere for this..
@nostrildamus said in Foster:
is this a hot sauce or made up media clickbait?
Should he take over from Foster, Robertson will want to hand-pick the assistants he believes can help produce a team capable of winning the World Cup in France next year. It's understood MacDonald and Holland, who coach the Blues and the Hurricanes, Ryan and Crusaders assistant coach Scott Hansen have been short-listed.I don't see any evidence anywhere for this..
If this was real, one of the additional benefits would be getting rid of Holland from the Canes...
