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All Blacks 2022

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  • ChrisC Chris

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    đź—ž UPDATE | The following players will not assemble in Christchurch...

    Brodie Retallick: Is available to return to play with Hawke’s Bay in the Bunnings NPC, this weekend.

    Jack Goodhue: After taking the field for Northland in the Bunnings NPC, his knee has not improved as hoped. He will undergo surgery.

    Nepo Laulala and Ofa Tu’ungafasi: Both have recovered from injury and will remain with Counties Manukau and Northland, respectively.

    Patrick Tuipulotu: Suffered a neck injury at training during the second week of the South African tour. He will remain in Auckland for treatment and will continue to be monitored.

    Fletcher Newell, Tyrel Lomax, Josh Dickson and Braydon Ennor will remain with the squad.

    So many people's midfield great white hope is out, foster needs to pick and stick until the RWC

    Sadly Ennor is still there to make up numbers though.

    Interesting that Schmidt has taken over his Selectors role and a role in the attack, Ennor is retained.

    To be honest though, who else is there?
    I think Ennor is there as a stopgap but if they think they can stop his tits for hands and slow decision making because of his physical attributes then good for him.
    I cant see selectors going deeper outside the squad in an area they are trying to cement anyway with a near cert like ALB still to return.
    If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

    Probably not a lot unless you give TUJ OR B Sullivan a crack.

    For Me Ennor and RTS should be playing NPC to develop.
    It seems like 35 in the squad is a bit over kill,Especially when we are playing at Home 3/4 games.

    Yep. No reason to give TUJ and BS a go. They may get their chance in the AB XV.
    Altough BS had a chance to show worth against Ireland and botched it.

    That AB XV is going to be very interesting,To see where the coaches are heading with the future.

    Will it be mixture of youth and experience or all young players.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    Will it be mixture of youth and experience or all young players.

    I would say a mix

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    • WingerW Winger

      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

      Come on. The TV commentators rave about him so this can't be right

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      @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

      Come on. The TV commentators rave about him so this can't be right

      I can't actually see the point of selecting him in the first place except for promotion.
      He was always going to be third choice behind Havili and Tupaea and doesn't have enough union experience to convert him to covering 13 (like they have QT).
      He was basically there as a hail mary option that didn't get used.

      So much of the eventual gameplan revolved around Havili playing well, they had to persevere.

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        Some more details on the injuries etc

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        • WingerW Winger

          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:

          Yeah ok. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he played at 12 for the NZ U20 and won player of the year in that position for Canterbury.

          This is not correct. He started most of his games at fullback for Canterbury. He also had some starts at 12 and one at 13, but his primary position was fullback

          He initially started the season at FB, but was then 12 and he ended at 13 because Goodhue was injured. Regardless, the combo he formed with Goodhue looked really good and I wish he'd stayed down there to continue that. I've always said that I would rather him play at 12 for the Saders than 15 for the Canes.

          Why? Do you want all the ABs to play for the Saders? Super rugby should be a standalone competition IMHO not just a feeder for the ABs.

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            So maybe I'm wrong about Ofa and Laulala.
            Still think he is kind of pleased to have a good excuse to test the others a bit further though.

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              https://www.the42.ie/kerr-barlow-australia-5847997-Aug2022/?amp=1

              Is this one of those situations where the IQ of both countries goes up?

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                https://www.the42.ie/kerr-barlow-australia-5847997-Aug2022/?amp=1

                Is this one of those situations where the IQ of both countries goes up?

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                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

                https://www.the42.ie/kerr-barlow-australia-5847997-Aug2022/?amp=1

                Is this one of those situations where the IQ of both countries goes up?

                He’s still a good player. Don’t think he’d be in the ABs on merit though. Good luck to him. Maybe he’s looking to live in Oz and is feathering the bed before moving into coaching?

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                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

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                    It's the time for the young ones
                    Degroot Newell Sami Paps Sotutu QT Razor.
                    Let's go

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                    • M Machpants

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

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                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                      I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

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                        ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

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                        • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

                          ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

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                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks 2022:

                          ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

                          5th as of today.
                          6th - if we lose to Argies again.
                          7th - if we then lose to Aussies.

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                            We need 2 resignations

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @dogmeat said in Foster:

                                So midfield is a real concern.

                                We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                                No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                                No with Goodhue

                                Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                                Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                                Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                                What’s George Moala up to ?

                                Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

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                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @dogmeat said in Foster:

                                So midfield is a real concern.

                                We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                                No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                                No with Goodhue

                                Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                                Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                                Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                                What’s George Moala up to ?

                                Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                                Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                  I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                  I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                  Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                  I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                    I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                    Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                    I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                    I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                    Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                    I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                    I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                      I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                      Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                      I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                      I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                      I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                      Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                      I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                      I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

                                      Thanks.

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @dogmeat said in Foster:

                                        So midfield is a real concern.

                                        We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                                        No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                                        No with Goodhue

                                        Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                                        Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                                        Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                                        What’s George Moala up to ?

                                        Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                                        Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

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                                        MN5
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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @dogmeat said in Foster:

                                        So midfield is a real concern.

                                        We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                                        No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                                        No with Goodhue

                                        Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                                        Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                                        Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                                        What’s George Moala up to ?

                                        Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                                        Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

                                        Far too abrasive, physical and dominant.

                                        I’m glad he’s gone.

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                          Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                          I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                          Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                          I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                          Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

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