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  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

    https://www.the42.ie/kerr-barlow-australia-5847997-Aug2022/?amp=1

    Is this one of those situations where the IQ of both countries goes up?

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    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

    https://www.the42.ie/kerr-barlow-australia-5847997-Aug2022/?amp=1

    Is this one of those situations where the IQ of both countries goes up?

    He’s still a good player. Don’t think he’d be in the ABs on merit though. Good luck to him. Maybe he’s looking to live in Oz and is feathering the bed before moving into coaching?

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      #3747

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

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        #3748

        It's the time for the young ones
        Degroot Newell Sami Paps Sotutu QT Razor.
        Let's go

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        • M Machpants

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

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          #3749

          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

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            #3750

            ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

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            • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

              ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

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              #3751

              @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks 2022:

              ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

              5th as of today.
              6th - if we lose to Argies again.
              7th - if we then lose to Aussies.

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                We need 2 resignations

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @dogmeat said in Foster:

                    So midfield is a real concern.

                    We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                    No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                    No with Goodhue

                    Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                    Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                    Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                    What’s George Moala up to ?

                    Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #3754

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @dogmeat said in Foster:

                    So midfield is a real concern.

                    We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                    No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                    No with Goodhue

                    Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                    Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                    Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                    What’s George Moala up to ?

                    Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                    Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                      I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

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                      #3755

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                      I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                      Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                      I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                        I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                        Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                        I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                        #3756

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                        I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                        Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                        I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                        I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                          Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                          I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                          I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

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                          nostrildamus
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                          #3757

                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                          Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                          I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                          I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

                          Thanks.

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                          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @dogmeat said in Foster:

                            So midfield is a real concern.

                            We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                            No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                            No with Goodhue

                            Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                            Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                            Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                            What’s George Moala up to ?

                            Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                            Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

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                            #3758

                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @dogmeat said in Foster:

                            So midfield is a real concern.

                            We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                            No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                            No with Goodhue

                            Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                            Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                            Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                            What’s George Moala up to ?

                            Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                            Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

                            Far too abrasive, physical and dominant.

                            I’m glad he’s gone.

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                              I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                              Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                              I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                              #3759

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                              I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                              Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                              I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                              Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

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                              • KruseK Kruse

                                @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

                                5th as of today.
                                6th - if we lose to Argies again.
                                7th - if we then lose to Aussies.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #3760

                                @Kruse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

                                5th as of today.
                                6th - if we lose to Argies again.
                                7th - if we then lose to Aussies.

                                So, not all that unrealistic.

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                                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                  I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                  Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                  I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                  Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

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                                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                  I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                  Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                  I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                  Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                                  im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                    I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                    Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                    I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                    Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                                    im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                    I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                    Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                    I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                    Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                                    im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

                                    Our skills used to be better, particularly when fatigued. Now they struggle even when we're fresh

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                      I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                      Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                      I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                      Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                                      im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

                                      Our skills used to be better, particularly when fatigued. Now they struggle even when we're fresh

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                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                      I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                      Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                      I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                      Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                                      im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

                                      Our skills used to be better, particularly when fatigued. Now they struggle even when we're fresh

                                      Players don't lose skills they lose confidence.

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                        I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                        I remember an interview with him way before he was inline for the Allblack job , and he kind of talked about setting up gameplans to suit the skills of the side you are coaching , and how that can vary depending on who you are coaching at the time

                                        I remembered that when he got the job, and it gave me hope that our attack would be very different to irelands under hiis coaching , and the blues looked different to Ireland

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                                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                          I remember an interview with him way before he was inline for the Allblack job , and he kind of talked about setting up gameplans to suit the skills of the side you are coaching , and how that can vary depending on who you are coaching at the time

                                          I remembered that when he got the job, and it gave me hope that our attack would be very different to irelands under hiis coaching , and the blues looked different to Ireland

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                          I remember an interview with him way before he was inline for the Allblack job , and he kind of talked about setting up gameplans to suit the skills of the side you are coaching , and how that can vary depending on who you are coaching at the time

                                          I remembered that when he got the job, and it gave me hope that our attack would be very different to irelands under his coaching , and the blues looked different to Ireland

                                          He must have learnt that after he tried to make Carlos play a Tasesa Lavea style the year after the Carlos style won the Blues a Super comp.

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