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    We need 2 resignations

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      • MN5M MN5

        @dogmeat said in Foster:

        So midfield is a real concern.

        We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

        No No we need ALB back with Rieko

        No with Goodhue

        Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

        Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

        Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

        What’s George Moala up to ?

        Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

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        wrote on last edited by
        #3754

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

        @dogmeat said in Foster:

        So midfield is a real concern.

        We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

        No No we need ALB back with Rieko

        No with Goodhue

        Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

        Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

        Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

        What’s George Moala up to ?

        Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

        Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

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          #3755

          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

          Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
          I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

            I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

            Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
            I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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            wrote on last edited by
            #3756

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

            I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

            Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
            I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

            I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

              I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

              Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
              I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

              I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

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              nostrildamus
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              #3757

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

              I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

              Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
              I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

              I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

              Thanks.

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @dogmeat said in Foster:

                So midfield is a real concern.

                We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                No with Goodhue

                Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                What’s George Moala up to ?

                Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

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                #3758

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                @dogmeat said in Foster:

                So midfield is a real concern.

                We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                No with Goodhue

                Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                What’s George Moala up to ?

                Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

                Far too abrasive, physical and dominant.

                I’m glad he’s gone.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                  I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                  Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                  I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                  #3759

                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                  I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                  Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                  I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                  Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

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                  • KruseK Kruse

                    @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

                    5th as of today.
                    6th - if we lose to Argies again.
                    7th - if we then lose to Aussies.

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                    Joans Town Jones
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                    #3760

                    @Kruse said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

                    5th as of today.
                    6th - if we lose to Argies again.
                    7th - if we then lose to Aussies.

                    So, not all that unrealistic.

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                      I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                      Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                      I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                      Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

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                      Kiwiwomble
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                      #3761

                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                      I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                      Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                      I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                      Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                      im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                        I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                        Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                        I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                        Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                        im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

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                        #3762

                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                        I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                        Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                        I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                        Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                        im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

                        Our skills used to be better, particularly when fatigued. Now they struggle even when we're fresh

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                          Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                          I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                          Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                          im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

                          Our skills used to be better, particularly when fatigued. Now they struggle even when we're fresh

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                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                          I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                          Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                          I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                          Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

                          im not even sure all our players are that much fitter than their opposition, in the past yes, no one could keep up...but currently im not sure

                          Our skills used to be better, particularly when fatigued. Now they struggle even when we're fresh

                          Players don't lose skills they lose confidence.

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                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                            I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                            I remember an interview with him way before he was inline for the Allblack job , and he kind of talked about setting up gameplans to suit the skills of the side you are coaching , and how that can vary depending on who you are coaching at the time

                            I remembered that when he got the job, and it gave me hope that our attack would be very different to irelands under hiis coaching , and the blues looked different to Ireland

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                            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                              I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                              I remember an interview with him way before he was inline for the Allblack job , and he kind of talked about setting up gameplans to suit the skills of the side you are coaching , and how that can vary depending on who you are coaching at the time

                              I remembered that when he got the job, and it gave me hope that our attack would be very different to irelands under hiis coaching , and the blues looked different to Ireland

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                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                              I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                              I remember an interview with him way before he was inline for the Allblack job , and he kind of talked about setting up gameplans to suit the skills of the side you are coaching , and how that can vary depending on who you are coaching at the time

                              I remembered that when he got the job, and it gave me hope that our attack would be very different to irelands under his coaching , and the blues looked different to Ireland

                              He must have learnt that after he tried to make Carlos play a Tasesa Lavea style the year after the Carlos style won the Blues a Super comp.

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                                #3766

                                Speaking of Schmidt.

                                https://twitter.com/brettruganalyst/status/1564010978626371586

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  Speaking of Schmidt.

                                  https://twitter.com/brettruganalyst/status/1564010978626371586

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #3767

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Speaking of Schmidt.

                                  https://twitter.com/brettruganalyst/status/1564010978626371586

                                  It didn't do too much against the Argies they shut it all down.Like they have seen it before.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Speaking of Schmidt.

                                    https://twitter.com/brettruganalyst/status/1564010978626371586

                                    It didn't do too much against the Argies they shut it all down.Like they have seen it before.

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                                    @Chris I thought people might be interested in the attacking shape that Schmidt has employed.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @Chris I thought people might be interested in the attacking shape that Schmidt has employed.

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                                      Chris
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #3769

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Chris I thought people might be interested in the attacking shape that Schmidt has employed.

                                      fair call not bagging you at all.Just I wonder if Schmidt is the right man as attack coach.
                                      Looking at Ireland under him, and last Saturdays attack.
                                      I hate we reverted back to a super flat backline after Ellis park standing deeper seemed to work.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @Chris I thought people might be interested in the attacking shape that Schmidt has employed.

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                                        #3770

                                        @KiwiMurph Lots of good cleaning from Scott Barrett and Samisoni Taukei'aho in that clip.

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                                          wonder if Brodie will get a start or come off the bench? I expect he will get a spot in the 23 over Vaai, and wonder if it alters the bench given they could then move SB to 6?

                                          I dont think bringing him straight into the 23 would be the right call, but expect they will.

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