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All Blacks 2022

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  • WingerW Winger

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

    Come on. The TV commentators rave about him so this can't be right

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    @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    If there's one player I cant see a reason to retain in the squad except coaching it is RTS.

    Come on. The TV commentators rave about him so this can't be right

    I can't actually see the point of selecting him in the first place except for promotion.
    He was always going to be third choice behind Havili and Tupaea and doesn't have enough union experience to convert him to covering 13 (like they have QT).
    He was basically there as a hail mary option that didn't get used.

    So much of the eventual gameplan revolved around Havili playing well, they had to persevere.

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      Some more details on the injuries etc

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      • WingerW Winger

        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:

        Yeah ok. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he played at 12 for the NZ U20 and won player of the year in that position for Canterbury.

        This is not correct. He started most of his games at fullback for Canterbury. He also had some starts at 12 and one at 13, but his primary position was fullback

        He initially started the season at FB, but was then 12 and he ended at 13 because Goodhue was injured. Regardless, the combo he formed with Goodhue looked really good and I wish he'd stayed down there to continue that. I've always said that I would rather him play at 12 for the Saders than 15 for the Canes.

        Why? Do you want all the ABs to play for the Saders? Super rugby should be a standalone competition IMHO not just a feeder for the ABs.

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          So maybe I'm wrong about Ofa and Laulala.
          Still think he is kind of pleased to have a good excuse to test the others a bit further though.

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            https://www.the42.ie/kerr-barlow-australia-5847997-Aug2022/?amp=1

            Is this one of those situations where the IQ of both countries goes up?

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            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

              https://www.the42.ie/kerr-barlow-australia-5847997-Aug2022/?amp=1

              Is this one of those situations where the IQ of both countries goes up?

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              @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

              https://www.the42.ie/kerr-barlow-australia-5847997-Aug2022/?amp=1

              Is this one of those situations where the IQ of both countries goes up?

              He’s still a good player. Don’t think he’d be in the ABs on merit though. Good luck to him. Maybe he’s looking to live in Oz and is feathering the bed before moving into coaching?

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                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

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                  It's the time for the young ones
                  Degroot Newell Sami Paps Sotutu QT Razor.
                  Let's go

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                  • M Machpants

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

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                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                    I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

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                      ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

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                      • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

                        ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

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                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks 2022:

                        ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

                        5th as of today.
                        6th - if we lose to Argies again.
                        7th - if we then lose to Aussies.

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                          We need 2 resignations

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @dogmeat said in Foster:

                              So midfield is a real concern.

                              We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                              No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                              No with Goodhue

                              Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                              Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                              Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                              What’s George Moala up to ?

                              Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

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                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @dogmeat said in Foster:

                              So midfield is a real concern.

                              We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                              No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                              No with Goodhue

                              Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                              Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                              Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                              What’s George Moala up to ?

                              Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                              Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

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                                @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                  I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                  Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                  I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                  I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                  Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                  I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                  I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                    I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                    Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                    I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                    I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

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                                    nostrildamus
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                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                    I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                    Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                    I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                    I believe Schmidt has taken over the Attack job on his own.

                                    Thanks.

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @dogmeat said in Foster:

                                      So midfield is a real concern.

                                      We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                                      No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                                      No with Goodhue

                                      Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                                      Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                                      Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                                      What’s George Moala up to ?

                                      Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                                      Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

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                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @dogmeat said in Foster:

                                      So midfield is a real concern.

                                      We need to try Havili/Goodhue.

                                      No No we need ALB back with Rieko

                                      No with Goodhue

                                      Let's try Tupaea/ALB or Tupaea/Goodhue

                                      Nah Jordie /Goodhue is the answer

                                      Shit this coaching lark is tougker than I thought .... 🙂

                                      What’s George Moala up to ?

                                      Frizell and Reece got selected so no reason he can’t as well.

                                      Last I heard George was running hard up the midfield (and hitting hard) so he doesn't suit this team.

                                      Far too abrasive, physical and dominant.

                                      I’m glad he’s gone.

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                        I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                        Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                        I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-argentina-the-awkward-truth-about-the-all-blacks-attack-after-pumas-defeat/B3EECTILMQIJGKZIF23QO2WVGQ/?c_id=80&objectid=12548056&ref=rss

                                        I wonder about Schmidt as the article says our attack was toothless and we ran out of ideas and Options very quickly.

                                        Isn't he sharing the attack with Foster or is Schmidt and Schmidt alone the attack coach?
                                        I think one test isn't enough to judge him. But I feel now like it can't just be the coaching, we don't quite have the onfield strategy, fitness, and skills advantage either (that we used to have).

                                        Our 'fitness' has been nullified somewhat by the number of breaks creaping into the game. I suspect we still have the fitness to outrun most teams but we are not being allowed to do it. Is it time we changed our 'fitness' to producing muscle bound monsters like other teams? If we can't beat them maybe we should join them.

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                                        • KruseK Kruse

                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

                                          5th as of today.
                                          6th - if we lose to Argies again.
                                          7th - if we then lose to Aussies.

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                                          @Kruse said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          ABs drop down to 7th, am I right?

                                          5th as of today.
                                          6th - if we lose to Argies again.
                                          7th - if we then lose to Aussies.

                                          So, not all that unrealistic.

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