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  • MajorPomM MajorPom

    @mariner4life said in Foster:

    @Nepia said in Foster:

    @nzzp said in Foster:

    @voodoo said in Foster:

    @DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?

    Rennie
    Joseph
    Brown
    Cotter
    Schmidt

    I'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.

    Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).

    why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet

    You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.

    There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ

    And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"

    Fuck that

    Because some people have drive, ambition, desire to be the best to prove to the world they are the best and take on the biggest challenge they can?

    Weirdos.

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    @MajorRage said in Foster:

    @mariner4life said in Foster:

    @Nepia said in Foster:

    @nzzp said in Foster:

    @voodoo said in Foster:

    @DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?

    Rennie
    Joseph
    Brown
    Cotter
    Schmidt

    I'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.

    Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).

    why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet

    You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.

    There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ

    And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"

    Fuck that

    Because some people have drive, ambition, desire to be the best to prove to the world they are the best and take on the biggest challenge they can?

    Weirdos.

    Way to make it serious

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    • BonesB Bones

      The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

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      @Bones said in Foster:

      The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

      I am not so sure on that.

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @Bones said in Foster:

        The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

        I am not so sure on that.

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        @Chris said in Foster:

        @Bones said in Foster:

        The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

        I am not so sure on that.

        I am. They don't even have a forwards coach.

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        • number9N number9

          @Victor-Meldrew Razor, obviously. His record speaks for itself.

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          Victor Meldrew
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          #3535

          @number9 said in Foster:

          @Victor-Meldrew Razor, obviously. His record speaks for itself.

          Absolutely. So good he doesn't need to actually coach a Test team to be the world's best.

          The Chuck Norris of Rugby coaches, I tell you.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Chris said in Foster:

            @Bones said in Foster:

            The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

            I am not so sure on that.

            I am. They don't even have a forwards coach.

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            #3536

            @Bones said in Foster:

            @Chris said in Foster:

            @Bones said in Foster:

            The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

            I am not so sure on that.

            I am. They don't even have a forwards coach.

            They do Dave Perrin, Jason Ryan’s apprentice he will do just fine.
            And they don’t have Foster or McLeod.

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @number9 said in Foster:

              @Victor-Meldrew Razor, obviously. His record speaks for itself.

              Absolutely. So good he doesn't need to actually coach a Test team to be the world's best.

              The Chuck Norris of Rugby coaches, I tell you.

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              ARHS
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              @Victor-Meldrew thought he was going on about someone with success at international level

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              • A ARHS

                @Victor-Meldrew thought he was going on about someone with success at international level

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                @ARHS said in Foster:

                @Victor-Meldrew thought he was going on about someone with success at international level

                What like Foster creating all sorts of records to be proud of, and he has had 11 years of International experience.
                Overated international experience.
                Galthie had no International coaching experience until he coached France.He came straight out of Top14.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @ARHS said in Foster:

                  @Victor-Meldrew thought he was going on about someone with success at international level

                  What like Foster creating all sorts of records to be proud of, and he has had 11 years of International experience.
                  Overated international experience.
                  Galthie had no International coaching experience until he coached France.He came straight out of Top14.

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                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  Galthie had no International coaching experience until he coached France.He came straight out of Top14.

                  Then again, Guy Novès won multiple titles with Toulouse but was a failure with France. You just never know either way...

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    Galthie had no International coaching experience until he coached France.He came straight out of Top14.

                    Then again, Guy Novès won multiple titles with Toulouse but was a failure with France. You just never know either way...

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                    Chris
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                    #3540

                    @Bovidae said in Foster:

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    Galthie had no International coaching experience until he coached France.He came straight out of Top14.

                    Then again, Guy Novès won multiple titles with Toulouse but was a failure with France. You just never know either way...

                    I agree but to keep banging on International experience as a must is short sighted in my opinion.
                    Certainly limits your selection process, as there is a lot of inadequate International coaches out there.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

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                      Asterik6
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                      #3541

                      @Bones said in Foster:

                      The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

                      But the Jaguares in 2019/18 were the entire Argentina squad (all of them) and Crusaders dominated 19-3 in the final..

                      The only other Crusader's encounter (2018 season) they got destroyed 48-17 in Buenos Aires.

                      All current evidence hints that Razor is a phenomenonal coach.

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                      • A Asterik6

                        @Bones said in Foster:

                        The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

                        But the Jaguares in 2019/18 were the entire Argentina squad (all of them) and Crusaders dominated 19-3 in the final..

                        The only other Crusader's encounter (2018 season) they got destroyed 48-17 in Buenos Aires.

                        All current evidence hints that Razor is a phenomenonal coach.

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                        Chris
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                        #3542

                        @Asterik6 said in Foster:

                        @Bones said in Foster:

                        The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.

                        But the Jaguares in 2019/18 were the entire Argentina squad (all of them) and Crusaders dominated 19-3 in the final..

                        The only other Crusader's encounter (2018 season) they got destroyed 48-17 in Buenos Aires.

                        All current evidence hints that Razor is a phenomenonal coach.

                        Further to that 15 Springboks were in the 2017 Lions 23 that lost in the Final to the Crusaders at Ellis Park.

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                        • S SBW1

                          @Machpants Tamati Ellison did a pretty good job at the Crusaders this year.

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                          @SBW1 said in Foster:

                          @Machpants Tamati Ellison did a pretty good job at the Crusaders this year.

                          And Wellington have improved out of sight this year Still plenty to go but if they hold the shield Ellison will be one to watch maybe

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                          • BonesB Online
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                            #3544

                            @Asterik6 @Chris Well in that case, even the highlanders would smoke them.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Asterik6 @Chris Well in that case, even the highlanders would smoke them.

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                              #3545

                              @Bones said in Foster:

                              @Asterik6 @Chris Well in that case, even the highlanders would smoke them.

                              Smoke them lunch maybe, Nice smoked Brisket.

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                                A record for Fozzie ...

                                https://twitter.com/nzrugbydatabase/status/1573604796778442752?t=5BaQIcAlRQIi6nLUidCBwA&s=19

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  A record for Fozzie ...

                                  https://twitter.com/nzrugbydatabase/status/1573604796778442752?t=5BaQIcAlRQIi6nLUidCBwA&s=19

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                                  nostrildamus
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                                  @booboo I'm sure Henry would love to have that sort of record against the ninth ranked team..

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                                    #3548

                                    So Foster wins a third Rugby Championship (well second plus one Tri-Nations) to go with three consecutive Beldisloes and three consecutive Freedom Cups.

                                    Winning percentage at 66% (68% if you into count the draw which I usually do) is still a little under par.

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                                      number9
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                                      Foster is in charge of Media Relations, Jason Ryan and Schmidt are doing a great job coaching the ABs.

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        So Foster wins a third Rugby Championship (well second plus one Tri-Nations) to go with three consecutive Beldisloes and three consecutive Freedom Cups.

                                        Winning percentage at 66% (68% if you into count the draw which I usually do) is still a little under par.

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                                        @booboo said in Foster:

                                        So Foster wins a third Rugby Championship (well second plus one Tri-Nations) to go with three consecutive Beldisloes and three consecutive Freedom Cups.

                                        Winning percentage at 66% (68% if you into count the draw which I usually do) is still a little under par.

                                        And one brain fade away from losing the RC.Thanks to Foley.

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          @booboo said in Foster:

                                          So Foster wins a third Rugby Championship (well second plus one Tri-Nations) to go with three consecutive Beldisloes and three consecutive Freedom Cups.

                                          Winning percentage at 66% (68% if you into count the draw which I usually do) is still a little under par.

                                          And one brain fade away from losing the RC.Thanks to Foley.

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                                          #3551

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @booboo said in Foster:

                                          So Foster wins a third Rugby Championship (well second plus one Tri-Nations) to go with three consecutive Beldisloes and three consecutive Freedom Cups.

                                          Winning percentage at 66% (68% if you into count the draw which I usually do) is still a little under par.

                                          And one brain fade away from losing the RC.Thanks to Foley.

                                          Fish and chip paper.

                                          Close results happen all the time.

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