Foster, Robertson etc
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@Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.
"you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
"we are putting a roof on the house"
"I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co
And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.
"you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
"we are putting a roof on the house"
"I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co
And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?
Hinton apparently
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@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.
"you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
"we are putting a roof on the house"
"I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co
And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?
Hinton apparently
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.
"you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
"we are putting a roof on the house"
"I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co
And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?
Hinton apparently
And perhaps a few posters on rugby forums?
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@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.
"you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
"we are putting a roof on the house"
"I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co
And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?
Hinton apparently
And perhaps a few posters on rugby forums?
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.
"you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
"we are putting a roof on the house"
"I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co
And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?
Hinton apparently
And perhaps a few posters on rugby forums?
He better not have worked out his preferred assistants though. That would be a recipe for disaster. Best that NZR put an ad on Seek.
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I was reading this morning that motor mouth Hamish McLennan has seemingly let it ne known he has been in contact with Eddie Jones after he has lost Pom job.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/130731734/wallabies-return-on-cards-as-eddie-jones-fields-call-from-rugby-australia-chair-hamish-mclennanWhy would you tell everyone, it's done nothing but undermine Rennie with Wallabies if it all true!
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I was reading this morning that motor mouth Hamish McLennan has seemingly let it ne known he has been in contact with Eddie Jones after he has lost Pom job.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/130731734/wallabies-return-on-cards-as-eddie-jones-fields-call-from-rugby-australia-chair-hamish-mclennanWhy would you tell everyone, it's done nothing but undermine Rennie with Wallabies if it all true!
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@Dan54 maybe Rennie has indicated he may be looking to move on?
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 maybe Rennie has indicated he may be looking to move on?
To who? Even if he has done that to RA, isn't that the point, you don't put it in the the press and undermine the team etc until things are finalised, some things should be kept in house to at least appear to have a solid set up.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 maybe Rennie has indicated he may be looking to move on?
To who? Even if he has done that to RA, isn't that the point, you don't put it in the the press and undermine the team etc until things are finalised, some things should be kept in house to at least appear to have a solid set up.
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@Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.
@Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.
Amen, I understand having your sport in print, but doesn't seem to know when to stop. Was good to see when Super agreement etc was announced, he wasn't there.
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@Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.
@Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.
The problem with McLennon is he really is passionate about Australian Rugby, and is trying to promote the game In Australia by keeping it in the Media,Then going about all the wrong way with his bully, Bravado type Rhetoric.
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I find this thread therapeutic.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
Its making you a tougher man .
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
@Nepia if we use 2019 as a guide, you have about a year left to wait for this thread to die, or TSF explode...
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@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
Its making you a tougher man .
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
Its making you a tougher man .
I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
Its making you a tougher man .
I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
Its making you a tougher man .
I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.
Haha that was a good start.
Another 12 months of this thread and you will only add to that tough layer
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The NZR have backed mediocrity 3 times in a row.
On appointment in 2019, 'another 2 years' in 2021, and 'sinking in South Africa' in 2022.
Does the NZR have the courage to step outside the box and back proven ability and success?
Everyone knows the turnaround is attributable to Joe Schmidt & Jason Ryan (Razor's originally proposed forwards coach...)
He's delivered numerous unwanted firsts & has tarnished the team's reputation - which Henry/Hansen rebuilded.
Most disturbingly, Foster has cultivated a prevalent culture of mediocrity, where accountability is almost non-existent and embarrassingly poor excuses are constantly peddled to the rugby paying fan-base.
He treats the rugby public with contempt & doesn't bring the innate connection individuals like Razor/Smith carry with the wider public.
The NZRU made correct decision in Smith when the BFs were in disarray, the results were automatic (8 months).
Under Foster they've recorded a meagre 30% (3 from 10) success rate against top-tier (top 5) nations.
@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:
The NZR have backed mediocrity 3 times in a row.
On appointment in 2019, 'another 2 years' in 2021, and 'sinking in South Africa' in 2022.
Does the NZR have the courage to step outside the box and back proven ability and success?
Everyone knows the turnaround is attributable to Joe Schmidt & Jason Ryan (Razor's originally proposed forwards coach...)
He's delivered numerous unwanted firsts & has tarnished the team's reputation - which Henry/Hansen rebuilded.
Most disturbingly, Foster has cultivated a prevalent culture of mediocrity, where accountability is almost non-existent and embarrassingly poor excuses are constantly peddled to the rugby paying fan-base.
He treats the rugby public with contempt & doesn't bring the innate connection individuals like Razor/Smith carry with the wider public.
The NZRU made correct decision in Smith when the BFs were in disarray, the results were automatic (8 months).
Under Foster they've recorded a meagre 30% (3 from 10) success rate against top-tier (top 5) nations.
I would add 2017 to that...
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
Its making you a tougher man .
I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
Its making you a tougher man .
I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.
Pffft, I grew up in Renwick. We didn't even have a police station. Proper lawlessness.
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@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
Its making you a tougher man .
I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.
Pffft, I grew up in Renwick. We didn't even have a police station. Proper lawlessness.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I find this thread therapeutic.
I find it the complete opposite.
It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.
Its making you a tougher man .
I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.
Pffft, I grew up in Renwick. We didn't even have a police station. Proper lawlessness.
Renwick is awesome - if you love drinking white wine
Seriously, bike tours to vineyards around there were some of the highlights of my south island trips. Sensational place. Did have a bit of lawlessness though ... debauched tourists...
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Throws grenade....
https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1602396970047479808/photo/1
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Throws grenade....
https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1602396970047479808/photo/1
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Throws grenade....
https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1602396970047479808/photo/1
@Kirwan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Throws grenade....
https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1602396970047479808/photo/1
I'd wager Eddie would consider an AB coaching gig. He's basically the Tim Shadbolt of World Rugby.
throws another grenade..
and has been on the coaching team of more than one RWC team.
https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/eddie-jones/my-life-and-rugby/9781509850709Since taking over as head coach of England in 2015, Eddie Jones has orchestrated a complete revival of the national team. He has won the Six Nations Championship back-to-back, including England’s first Grand Slam in a generation and their first-ever whitewash of Australia in their own backyard, as well as taking them on their longest-ever winning streak, matching the world record held by the All Blacks. Eddie Jones is one of the most experienced and decorated coaches in Rugby Union. His career has spanned four World Cups: from the 2003 final, working with South Africa when they won in 2007, and causing the greatest upset in the history of the game in 2015 when he masterminded the Japanese victory over South Africa. Most recently, he led England on their incredible run at the 2019 World Cup, culminating in a stunning victory against the All Blacks before falling to South Africa in the final.
