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  • boobooB booboo

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    I find this thread therapeutic.

    I'd use other words.

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    @booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    I find this thread therapeutic.

    I'd use other words.

    I find this thread other-wordy?
    It seems to me more like a sadomasochistic meandering garden path down towards the RWC, hemmed in by two intractable walls of opinions: "Leave Foster there, the team likes him and Robertson must be overhyped/arrogant/inexperienced/risky" and a simple "get Foster out of there"!

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      @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300761527/why-scott-robertson-needs-to-be-rubberstamped-as-next-all-blacks-coach--and-soon

      Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.

      "you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
      "we are putting a roof on the house"
      "I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"

      Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co

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      @Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300761527/why-scott-robertson-needs-to-be-rubberstamped-as-next-all-blacks-coach--and-soon

      Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.

      "you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
      "we are putting a roof on the house"
      "I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"

      Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co

      And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?

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      • Dan54D Dan54

        @Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300761527/why-scott-robertson-needs-to-be-rubberstamped-as-next-all-blacks-coach--and-soon

        Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.

        "you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
        "we are putting a roof on the house"
        "I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"

        Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co

        And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?

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        #4544

        @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300761527/why-scott-robertson-needs-to-be-rubberstamped-as-next-all-blacks-coach--and-soon

        Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.

        "you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
        "we are putting a roof on the house"
        "I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"

        Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co

        And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?

        Hinton apparently

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300761527/why-scott-robertson-needs-to-be-rubberstamped-as-next-all-blacks-coach--and-soon

          Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.

          "you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
          "we are putting a roof on the house"
          "I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"

          Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co

          And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?

          Hinton apparently

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          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300761527/why-scott-robertson-needs-to-be-rubberstamped-as-next-all-blacks-coach--and-soon

          Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.

          "you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
          "we are putting a roof on the house"
          "I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"

          Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co

          And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?

          Hinton apparently

          And perhaps a few posters on rugby forums?

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300761527/why-scott-robertson-needs-to-be-rubberstamped-as-next-all-blacks-coach--and-soon

            Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.

            "you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
            "we are putting a roof on the house"
            "I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"

            Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co

            And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?

            Hinton apparently

            And perhaps a few posters on rugby forums?

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            #4546

            @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Machpants said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300761527/why-scott-robertson-needs-to-be-rubberstamped-as-next-all-blacks-coach--and-soon

            Hinton writes a complete non article telling everyone how bad it will be if NZR don't do something that they are actually doing.

            "you'll have to put a roof on that house or you will get wet"
            "we are putting a roof on the house"
            "I hope you do put a roof on because otherwise you will get wet"

            Except we don't know if that is what they are doing. All we have heard is that there are conversations. The mealy-mouthed fuckers at NZR have not said, we are going to choose the ABs coach before RWC, they have just said we're aware things are changing. And with the way they run things, I would imagine that it will be status quo, decision after RWC, and no one is left but Foster and Co

            And they have already signed Razor until 2024. Personally I don't think there should be anymore info, apart from the applicants etc, who else needs to know?

            Hinton apparently

            And perhaps a few posters on rugby forums?

            He better not have worked out his preferred assistants though. That would be a recipe for disaster. Best that NZR put an ad on Seek.

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              I was reading this morning that motor mouth Hamish McLennan has seemingly let it ne known he has been in contact with Eddie Jones after he has lost Pom job.
              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/130731734/wallabies-return-on-cards-as-eddie-jones-fields-call-from-rugby-australia-chair-hamish-mclennan

              Why would you tell everyone, it's done nothing but undermine Rennie with Wallabies if it all true!

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              • Dan54D Dan54

                I was reading this morning that motor mouth Hamish McLennan has seemingly let it ne known he has been in contact with Eddie Jones after he has lost Pom job.
                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/130731734/wallabies-return-on-cards-as-eddie-jones-fields-call-from-rugby-australia-chair-hamish-mclennan

                Why would you tell everyone, it's done nothing but undermine Rennie with Wallabies if it all true!

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                @Dan54 maybe Rennie has indicated he may be looking to move on?

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Dan54 maybe Rennie has indicated he may be looking to move on?

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                  @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Dan54 maybe Rennie has indicated he may be looking to move on?

                  To who? Even if he has done that to RA, isn't that the point, you don't put it in the the press and undermine the team etc until things are finalised, some things should be kept in house to at least appear to have a solid set up.

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Dan54 maybe Rennie has indicated he may be looking to move on?

                    To who? Even if he has done that to RA, isn't that the point, you don't put it in the the press and undermine the team etc until things are finalised, some things should be kept in house to at least appear to have a solid set up.

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                    @Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.

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                      @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.

                      Amen, I understand having your sport in print, but doesn't seem to know when to stop. Was good to see when Super agreement etc was announced, he wasn't there.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.

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                        Chris
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                        #4552

                        @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.

                        The problem with McLennon is he really is passionate about Australian Rugby, and is trying to promote the game In Australia by keeping it in the Media,Then going about all the wrong way with his bully, Bravado type Rhetoric.

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                        • O Old Samurai Jack

                          I find this thread therapeutic.

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                          Nepia
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                          #4553

                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          I find this thread therapeutic.

                          I find it the complete opposite.

                          It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            I find this thread therapeutic.

                            I find it the complete opposite.

                            It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                            ChrisC Online
                            ChrisC Online
                            Chris
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                            #4554

                            @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            I find this thread therapeutic.

                            I find it the complete opposite.

                            It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                            Its making you a tougher man .

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              I find this thread therapeutic.

                              I find it the complete opposite.

                              It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

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                              @Nepia if we use 2019 as a guide, you have about a year left to wait for this thread to die, or TSF explode...

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                I find this thread therapeutic.

                                I find it the complete opposite.

                                It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                                Its making you a tougher man .

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                                Nepia
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                                #4556

                                @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                I find this thread therapeutic.

                                I find it the complete opposite.

                                It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                                Its making you a tougher man .

                                I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  I find this thread therapeutic.

                                  I find it the complete opposite.

                                  It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                                  Its making you a tougher man .

                                  I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

                                  ChrisC Online
                                  ChrisC Online
                                  Chris
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                                  #4557

                                  @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                  I find this thread therapeutic.

                                  I find it the complete opposite.

                                  It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                                  Its making you a tougher man .

                                  I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

                                  Haha that was a good start.
                                  Another 12 months of this thread and you will only add to that tough layer😀

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                                  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                    The NZR have backed mediocrity 3 times in a row.

                                    On appointment in 2019, 'another 2 years' in 2021, and 'sinking in South Africa' in 2022.

                                    Does the NZR have the courage to step outside the box and back proven ability and success?

                                    Everyone knows the turnaround is attributable to Joe Schmidt & Jason Ryan (Razor's originally proposed forwards coach...)

                                    He's delivered numerous unwanted firsts & has tarnished the team's reputation - which Henry/Hansen rebuilded.

                                    Most disturbingly, Foster has cultivated a prevalent culture of mediocrity, where accountability is almost non-existent and embarrassingly poor excuses are constantly peddled to the rugby paying fan-base.

                                    He treats the rugby public with contempt & doesn't bring the innate connection individuals like Razor/Smith carry with the wider public.

                                    The NZRU made correct decision in Smith when the BFs were in disarray, the results were automatic (8 months).

                                    Under Foster they've recorded a meagre 30% (3 from 10) success rate against top-tier (top 5) nations.

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                                    @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    The NZR have backed mediocrity 3 times in a row.

                                    On appointment in 2019, 'another 2 years' in 2021, and 'sinking in South Africa' in 2022.

                                    Does the NZR have the courage to step outside the box and back proven ability and success?

                                    Everyone knows the turnaround is attributable to Joe Schmidt & Jason Ryan (Razor's originally proposed forwards coach...)

                                    He's delivered numerous unwanted firsts & has tarnished the team's reputation - which Henry/Hansen rebuilded.

                                    Most disturbingly, Foster has cultivated a prevalent culture of mediocrity, where accountability is almost non-existent and embarrassingly poor excuses are constantly peddled to the rugby paying fan-base.

                                    He treats the rugby public with contempt & doesn't bring the innate connection individuals like Razor/Smith carry with the wider public.

                                    The NZRU made correct decision in Smith when the BFs were in disarray, the results were automatic (8 months).

                                    Under Foster they've recorded a meagre 30% (3 from 10) success rate against top-tier (top 5) nations.

                                    I would add 2017 to that...

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      I find this thread therapeutic.

                                      I find it the complete opposite.

                                      It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                                      Its making you a tougher man .

                                      I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

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                                      @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      I find this thread therapeutic.

                                      I find it the complete opposite.

                                      It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                                      Its making you a tougher man .

                                      I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

                                      Pffft, I grew up in Renwick. We didn't even have a police station. Proper lawlessness.

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                                      • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

                                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        I find this thread therapeutic.

                                        I find it the complete opposite.

                                        It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                                        Its making you a tougher man .

                                        I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

                                        Pffft, I grew up in Renwick. We didn't even have a police station. Proper lawlessness.

                                        nzzpN Online
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                                        nzzp
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                                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        I find this thread therapeutic.

                                        I find it the complete opposite.

                                        It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                                        Its making you a tougher man .

                                        I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

                                        Pffft, I grew up in Renwick. We didn't even have a police station. Proper lawlessness.

                                        Renwick is awesome - if you love drinking white wine 🙂

                                        Seriously, bike tours to vineyards around there were some of the highlights of my south island trips. Sensational place. Did have a bit of lawlessness though ... debauched tourists...

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                                          Throws grenade....

                                          https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1602396970047479808/photo/1

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