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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.

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    @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Dan54 Typicla McLennon though. That idiot seems to play everything via some (very average) media.

    The problem with McLennon is he really is passionate about Australian Rugby, and is trying to promote the game In Australia by keeping it in the Media,Then going about all the wrong way with his bully, Bravado type Rhetoric.

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    • O Old Samurai Jack

      I find this thread therapeutic.

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      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      I find this thread therapeutic.

      I find it the complete opposite.

      It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        I find this thread therapeutic.

        I find it the complete opposite.

        It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

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        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        I find this thread therapeutic.

        I find it the complete opposite.

        It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

        Its making you a tougher man .

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          I find this thread therapeutic.

          I find it the complete opposite.

          It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

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          @Nepia if we use 2019 as a guide, you have about a year left to wait for this thread to die, or TSF explode...

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            I find this thread therapeutic.

            I find it the complete opposite.

            It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

            Its making you a tougher man .

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            @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            I find this thread therapeutic.

            I find it the complete opposite.

            It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

            Its making you a tougher man .

            I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              I find this thread therapeutic.

              I find it the complete opposite.

              It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

              Its making you a tougher man .

              I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

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              @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              I find this thread therapeutic.

              I find it the complete opposite.

              It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

              Its making you a tougher man .

              I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

              Haha that was a good start.
              Another 12 months of this thread and you will only add to that tough layer😀

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              • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                The NZR have backed mediocrity 3 times in a row.

                On appointment in 2019, 'another 2 years' in 2021, and 'sinking in South Africa' in 2022.

                Does the NZR have the courage to step outside the box and back proven ability and success?

                Everyone knows the turnaround is attributable to Joe Schmidt & Jason Ryan (Razor's originally proposed forwards coach...)

                He's delivered numerous unwanted firsts & has tarnished the team's reputation - which Henry/Hansen rebuilded.

                Most disturbingly, Foster has cultivated a prevalent culture of mediocrity, where accountability is almost non-existent and embarrassingly poor excuses are constantly peddled to the rugby paying fan-base.

                He treats the rugby public with contempt & doesn't bring the innate connection individuals like Razor/Smith carry with the wider public.

                The NZRU made correct decision in Smith when the BFs were in disarray, the results were automatic (8 months).

                Under Foster they've recorded a meagre 30% (3 from 10) success rate against top-tier (top 5) nations.

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                @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                The NZR have backed mediocrity 3 times in a row.

                On appointment in 2019, 'another 2 years' in 2021, and 'sinking in South Africa' in 2022.

                Does the NZR have the courage to step outside the box and back proven ability and success?

                Everyone knows the turnaround is attributable to Joe Schmidt & Jason Ryan (Razor's originally proposed forwards coach...)

                He's delivered numerous unwanted firsts & has tarnished the team's reputation - which Henry/Hansen rebuilded.

                Most disturbingly, Foster has cultivated a prevalent culture of mediocrity, where accountability is almost non-existent and embarrassingly poor excuses are constantly peddled to the rugby paying fan-base.

                He treats the rugby public with contempt & doesn't bring the innate connection individuals like Razor/Smith carry with the wider public.

                The NZRU made correct decision in Smith when the BFs were in disarray, the results were automatic (8 months).

                Under Foster they've recorded a meagre 30% (3 from 10) success rate against top-tier (top 5) nations.

                I would add 2017 to that...

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  I find this thread therapeutic.

                  I find it the complete opposite.

                  It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                  Its making you a tougher man .

                  I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

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                  #4559

                  @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  I find this thread therapeutic.

                  I find it the complete opposite.

                  It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                  Its making you a tougher man .

                  I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

                  Pffft, I grew up in Renwick. We didn't even have a police station. Proper lawlessness.

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                  • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

                    @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    I find this thread therapeutic.

                    I find it the complete opposite.

                    It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                    Its making you a tougher man .

                    I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

                    Pffft, I grew up in Renwick. We didn't even have a police station. Proper lawlessness.

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                    #4560

                    @Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    I find this thread therapeutic.

                    I find it the complete opposite.

                    It’s like a bad Groundhog Day with the same stuff being repeated every few pages.

                    Its making you a tougher man .

                    I grew up in Flaxmere, surely I can't get any tougher.

                    Pffft, I grew up in Renwick. We didn't even have a police station. Proper lawlessness.

                    Renwick is awesome - if you love drinking white wine 🙂

                    Seriously, bike tours to vineyards around there were some of the highlights of my south island trips. Sensational place. Did have a bit of lawlessness though ... debauched tourists...

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                      Throws grenade....

                      https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1602396970047479808/photo/1

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        Throws grenade....

                        https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1602396970047479808/photo/1

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                        @Kirwan Eddie Jones might be very useful as an analyst next year ...

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          Throws grenade....

                          https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1602396970047479808/photo/1

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                          @Kirwan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          Throws grenade....

                          https://twitter.com/RugbyPass/status/1602396970047479808/photo/1

                          I'd wager Eddie would consider an AB coaching gig. He's basically the Tim Shadbolt of World Rugby.

                          throws another grenade..
                          and has been on the coaching team of more than one RWC team.
                          https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/eddie-jones/my-life-and-rugby/9781509850709

                          Since taking over as head coach of England in 2015, Eddie Jones has orchestrated a complete revival of the national team. He has won the Six Nations Championship back-to-back, including England’s first Grand Slam in a generation and their first-ever whitewash of Australia in their own backyard, as well as taking them on their longest-ever winning streak, matching the world record held by the All Blacks.
                          
                          Eddie Jones is one of the most experienced and decorated coaches in Rugby Union. His career has spanned four World Cups: from the 2003 final, working with South Africa when they won in 2007, and causing the greatest upset in the history of the game in 2015 when he masterminded the Japanese victory over South Africa. Most recently, he led England on their incredible run at the 2019 World Cup, culminating in a stunning victory against the All Blacks before falling to South Africa in the final.
                          
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                            Justin Marshall is absolutely scathing of Ian Foster's All Blacks.

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/damaged-the-jersey-justin-marshall-on-the-all-blacks-2022/

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                            • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                              Justin Marshall is absolutely scathing of Ian Foster's All Blacks.

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/damaged-the-jersey-justin-marshall-on-the-all-blacks-2022/

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                              @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              Justin Marshall is absolutely scathing of Ian Foster's All Blacks.

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/damaged-the-jersey-justin-marshall-on-the-all-blacks-2022/

                              He's not wrong. It will take a massive year next year, a RWC SF as absolute minimum to restore some of aura's lustre. And no shellacking in the SF either, narrow loss at the very least

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                Justin Marshall is absolutely scathing of Ian Foster's All Blacks.

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/damaged-the-jersey-justin-marshall-on-the-all-blacks-2022/

                                He's not wrong. It will take a massive year next year, a RWC SF as absolute minimum to restore some of aura's lustre. And no shellacking in the SF either, narrow loss at the very least

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                                @canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                Justin Marshall is absolutely scathing of Ian Foster's All Blacks.

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/damaged-the-jersey-justin-marshall-on-the-all-blacks-2022/

                                He's not wrong. It will take a massive year next year, a RWC SF as absolute minimum to restore some of aura's lustre. And no shellacking in the SF either, narrow loss at the very least

                                IMO without a dominant entire season and record breaking fourth RWC victory will even start the CPR. And IMO RWC isn't everything, the damage Foster has done in the preceding years means even that and he should go.

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                                  Has Meg forgotten about 1998? And he was in that AB team.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Has Meg forgotten about 1998? And he was in that AB team.

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                                    @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    Has Meg forgotten about 1998? And he was in that AB team.

                                    Immediacy bias is so cool!

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Has Meg forgotten about 1998? And he was in that AB team.

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                                      @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      Has Meg forgotten about 1998? And he was in that AB team.

                                      And if we’re talking about teams that drew against Eng and should have won then we can go back to the 1997 team that he inexplicably captained.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Has Meg forgotten about 1998? And he was in that AB team.

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                                        @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        Has Meg forgotten about 1998? And he was in that AB team.

                                        That's an unfair comparison. With video refs the ABs win both the games against SA. The 2nd loss to Aus was also very close. Considering the changing of the guard due to retirements and players being passed it, they didn't do too badly. Better than 2022 at any rate.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          Has Meg forgotten about 1998? And he was in that AB team.

                                          And if we’re talking about teams that drew against Eng and should have won then we can go back to the 1997 team that he inexplicably captained.

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                                          @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          Has Meg forgotten about 1998? And he was in that AB team.

                                          And if we’re talking about teams that drew against Eng and should have won then we can go back to the 1997 team that he inexplicably captained.

                                          That's actually a great trivia question. I'll bet most people have forgotten that both he and Anton Oliver had very short stints as AB captain.

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