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Foster, Robertson etc

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    #4587

    Eddie Jones did the breakfast media round in UK this morning. He's already looking for another big coaching gig. Basically a come and get me for any interested Unions out there.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64043502

    I hope NZR were listening. I'd love to see Eddie as part of a future AB coaching group.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      Eddie Jones did the breakfast media round in UK this morning. He's already looking for another big coaching gig. Basically a come and get me for any interested Unions out there.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64043502

      I hope NZR were listening. I'd love to see Eddie as part of a future AB coaching group.

      TimT Away
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      Tim
      wrote on last edited by
      #4588

      @sparky As an analyst. No actual contact with the players.

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      • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

        @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Old-Samurai-Jack it's a very fair attitude, and one i have an enormous amount of sympathy for

        i guess my attitude is that there are a couple of reasons why we don't look great all the time

        Other teams are now good enough to take us away from what we want to do more regularly. Similarly we are as well of course.

        We have paddling pool depth at some positions, and it means selection has to be bang on. It also means some guys have to play a lot.

        Does the coaching staff get a free pass because of these? absolutely not. But, my opinion that making one change at the top isn't going to change the above nearly as much as some expect. And that;s what this thread devolved in to. One guy shit and source of all problems, one guy messiah who magically fixes everything. With zero context given to external factors.

        Funny how Schmidt & Ryan more or less came in and did essentially that....

        So much for the narrative regarding our players being shit, as during the Ireland series many on this board were claiming Foster simply had average cattle to work with - it wasn't his fault!

        Those posters are now silent.

        With Schmidt & Ryan added we've seen players like Lomax & Taylor go from poor to excellent (after 3 seasons of going backwards under Foster), surely not a coincidence, so what makes you think changing the head coach wouldn't also be a net-positive?

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        @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        Those posters are now silent.

        Those posters are bored shitless.

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        • TimT Tim

          @sparky As an analyst. No actual contact with the players.

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          #4590

          @Tim said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @sparky As an analyst. No actual contact with the players.

          He'd be fine on a short term deal, it's only after this methods wear off that he's a probelm. Be perfect to add to the team for a World Cup year for example.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            Eddie Jones did the breakfast media round in UK this morning. He's already looking for another big coaching gig. Basically a come and get me for any interested Unions out there.

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64043502

            I hope NZR were listening. I'd love to see Eddie as part of a future AB coaching group.

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            nostrildamus
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            #4591

            @sparky said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            Eddie Jones did the breakfast media round in UK this morning. He's already looking for another big coaching gig. Basically a come and get me for any interested Unions out there.

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64043502

            I hope NZR were listening. I'd love to see Eddie as part of a future AB coaching group.

            how many coaches can be picked almost instantly after being dropped from the world's third fourth fifth highest ranked team?

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            • CrucialC Offline
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              #4592

              If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
              Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                @Tim said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @sparky As an analyst. No actual contact with the players.

                He'd be fine on a short term deal, it's only after this methods wear off that he's a probelm. Be perfect to add to the team for a World Cup year for example.

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                #4593

                @Kirwan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @Tim said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @sparky As an analyst. No actual contact with the players.

                He'd be fine on a short term deal, it's only after this methods wear off that he's a probelm. Be perfect to add to the team for a World Cup year for example.

                Totally agree. Would love to see him as part of the AB camp for 2023.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                  Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

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                  Nepia
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #4594

                  @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                  Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                  I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                    Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                    I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

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                    Crucial
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                    #4595

                    @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                    Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                    I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                    Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                    canefanC NepiaN 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                      Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                      I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                      Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

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                      #4596

                      @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                      Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                      I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                      Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                      Same proviso as Eddie. Don't leave the players alone with him

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                        Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                        I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                        Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                        NepiaN Online
                        NepiaN Online
                        Nepia
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #4597

                        @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                        Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                        I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                        Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                        Yes.

                        CrucialC mariner4lifeM 2 Replies Last reply
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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                          Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                          I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                          Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                          Yes.

                          CrucialC Offline
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                          Crucial
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                          #4598

                          @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                          If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                          Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                          I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                          Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                          Yes.

                          Come on. It would be a journey.

                          canefanC 1 Reply Last reply
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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                            Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                            I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                            Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                            Yes.

                            Come on. It would be a journey.

                            canefanC Offline
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                            canefan
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                            #4599

                            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                            Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                            I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                            Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                            Yes.

                            Come on. It would be a journey.

                            Highway to Hell?

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                              Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                              I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                              Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                              Yes.

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                              mariner4life
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                              #4600

                              @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                              Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                              I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                              Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                              Yes.

                              Lol fuck cullen was cooked get over it

                              Hurricanes fans...

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                                Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                                I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                                Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                                Yes.

                                Lol fuck cullen was cooked get over it

                                Hurricanes fans...

                                NepiaN Online
                                NepiaN Online
                                Nepia
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #4601

                                @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                                Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                                I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                                Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                                Yes.

                                Lol fuck cullen was cooked get over it

                                Hurricanes fans...

                                You know full well that was the tip of the iceberg.

                                Waikato fans ...

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                                  Personally for the sake of the game, I would say no Eddie etc, or any defence,scrum,lineout coahes. Limit it too head and assistant coach, and let the players play.

                                  I know it may seem dumb, but I preferred when players won matches, now almost everyone seems to credit/blame the coaches.

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                                  • D Dan543

                                    Personally for the sake of the game, I would say no Eddie etc, or any defence,scrum,lineout coahes. Limit it too head and assistant coach, and let the players play.

                                    I know it may seem dumb, but I preferred when players won matches, now almost everyone seems to credit/blame the coaches.

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                                    #4603

                                    @Dan543 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    Personally for the sake of the game, I would say no Eddie etc, or any defence,scrum,lineout coahes. Limit it too head and assistant coach, and let the players play.

                                    I know it may seem dumb, but I preferred when players won matches, now almost everyone seems to credit/blame the coaches.

                                    Perfectly understandable if the Hamatuer is involved.

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                                      If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

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                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 10 after BB & RM finish?:

                                        If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

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                                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                          If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

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                                          #4606

                                          @No-Quarter Nothing can be pinned on Robertson as he was being paid to win the Super Rugby title hence he would have his players playing his style of rugby that he deemed necessary to achieve that goal.

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