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  • sparkyS sparky

    Eddie Jones did the breakfast media round in UK this morning. He's already looking for another big coaching gig. Basically a come and get me for any interested Unions out there.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64043502

    I hope NZR were listening. I'd love to see Eddie as part of a future AB coaching group.

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    @sparky said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    Eddie Jones did the breakfast media round in UK this morning. He's already looking for another big coaching gig. Basically a come and get me for any interested Unions out there.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64043502

    I hope NZR were listening. I'd love to see Eddie as part of a future AB coaching group.

    how many coaches can be picked almost instantly after being dropped from the world's third fourth fifth highest ranked team?

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      #4592

      If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
      Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        @Tim said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @sparky As an analyst. No actual contact with the players.

        He'd be fine on a short term deal, it's only after this methods wear off that he's a probelm. Be perfect to add to the team for a World Cup year for example.

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        MajorPom
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        #4593

        @Kirwan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Tim said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @sparky As an analyst. No actual contact with the players.

        He'd be fine on a short term deal, it's only after this methods wear off that he's a probelm. Be perfect to add to the team for a World Cup year for example.

        Totally agree. Would love to see him as part of the AB camp for 2023.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
          Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

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          #4594

          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
          Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

          I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
            Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

            I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

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            Crucial
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            #4595

            @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
            Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

            I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

            Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
              Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

              I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

              Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

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              canefan
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              #4596

              @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

              If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
              Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

              I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

              Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

              Same proviso as Eddie. Don't leave the players alone with him

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

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                Nepia
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                #4597

                @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                Yes.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                  Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                  I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                  Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                  Yes.

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                  #4598

                  @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                  Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                  I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                  Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                  Yes.

                  Come on. It would be a journey.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                    Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                    I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                    Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                    Yes.

                    Come on. It would be a journey.

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                    canefan
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                    #4599

                    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                    Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                    I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                    Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                    Yes.

                    Come on. It would be a journey.

                    Highway to Hell?

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                      Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                      I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                      Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                      Yes.

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                      #4600

                      @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                      Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                      I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                      Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                      Yes.

                      Lol fuck cullen was cooked get over it

                      Hurricanes fans...

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                        Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                        I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                        Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                        Yes.

                        Lol fuck cullen was cooked get over it

                        Hurricanes fans...

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                        Nepia
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                        #4601

                        @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
                        Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.

                        I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.

                        Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?

                        Yes.

                        Lol fuck cullen was cooked get over it

                        Hurricanes fans...

                        You know full well that was the tip of the iceberg.

                        Waikato fans ...

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                          Personally for the sake of the game, I would say no Eddie etc, or any defence,scrum,lineout coahes. Limit it too head and assistant coach, and let the players play.

                          I know it may seem dumb, but I preferred when players won matches, now almost everyone seems to credit/blame the coaches.

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                          • D Dan543

                            Personally for the sake of the game, I would say no Eddie etc, or any defence,scrum,lineout coahes. Limit it too head and assistant coach, and let the players play.

                            I know it may seem dumb, but I preferred when players won matches, now almost everyone seems to credit/blame the coaches.

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                            @Dan543 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            Personally for the sake of the game, I would say no Eddie etc, or any defence,scrum,lineout coahes. Limit it too head and assistant coach, and let the players play.

                            I know it may seem dumb, but I preferred when players won matches, now almost everyone seems to credit/blame the coaches.

                            Perfectly understandable if the Hamatuer is involved.

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                              If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

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                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 10 after BB & RM finish?:

                                If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

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                                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                  If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

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                                  @No-Quarter Nothing can be pinned on Robertson as he was being paid to win the Super Rugby title hence he would have his players playing his style of rugby that he deemed necessary to achieve that goal.

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

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                                    #4607

                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 10 after BB & RM finish?:

                                    If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.

                                    And what style would that be? Under Razor, Mo'unga's won 6 consecutive titles by playing intelligent pragmatic, structured rugby in the play-offs. They only reserve the helter-skelter headless Ian Foster style rugby for the Australian fixtures...

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                                      Compare the quality of the tight 5s in the 2022 Super Rugby final and you can see where the game was won and lost.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        Compare the quality of the tight 5s in the 2022 Super Rugby final and you can see where the game was won and lost.

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                                        @KiwiMurph how about the semi-final where Chiefs' All Black forward pack were all over Crusaders however couldn't manage to convert any of that dominance into points?

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                                        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                          @KiwiMurph how about the semi-final where Chiefs' All Black forward pack were all over Crusaders however couldn't manage to convert any of that dominance into points?

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                                          @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          @KiwiMurph how about the semi-final where Chiefs' All Black forward pack were all over Crusaders however couldn't manage to convert any of that dominance into points?

                                          Yep - hence why only Tupaea of that Chiefs backline made the initial ABs squad

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