Foster, Robertson etc
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@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.
Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?
Yes.
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.
Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?
Yes.
Come on. It would be a journey.
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@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.
Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?
Yes.
Come on. It would be a journey.
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.
Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?
Yes.
Come on. It would be a journey.
Highway to Hell?
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@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.
Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?
Yes.
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.
Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?
Yes.
Lol fuck cullen was cooked get over it
Hurricanes fans...
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@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.
Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?
Yes.
Lol fuck cullen was cooked get over it
Hurricanes fans...
@mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If you think it's crazy to have Eddie as an analyst what about looking at Moonhead Mitchell to run the defence? He has done a good job in that area throughout the world and would bring some insights to the NH systems especially. Couldn't be worse than the current bloke.
Between them they would piss everybody off and last no more than one season but if it works it works.I don't mind Eddie but if they bring in domehead I'm done.
Even if he improved our defence from McLeod?
Yes.
Lol fuck cullen was cooked get over it
Hurricanes fans...
You know full well that was the tip of the iceberg.
Waikato fans ...
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Personally for the sake of the game, I would say no Eddie etc, or any defence,scrum,lineout coahes. Limit it too head and assistant coach, and let the players play.
I know it may seem dumb, but I preferred when players won matches, now almost everyone seems to credit/blame the coaches.
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Personally for the sake of the game, I would say no Eddie etc, or any defence,scrum,lineout coahes. Limit it too head and assistant coach, and let the players play.
I know it may seem dumb, but I preferred when players won matches, now almost everyone seems to credit/blame the coaches.
@Dan543 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Personally for the sake of the game, I would say no Eddie etc, or any defence,scrum,lineout coahes. Limit it too head and assistant coach, and let the players play.
I know it may seem dumb, but I preferred when players won matches, now almost everyone seems to
credit/blame the coaches.Perfectly understandable if the Hamatuer is involved.
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If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
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If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 10 after BB & RM finish?:
If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
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If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
@No-Quarter Nothing can be pinned on Robertson as he was being paid to win the Super Rugby title hence he would have his players playing his style of rugby that he deemed necessary to achieve that goal.
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If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 10 after BB & RM finish?:
If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
And what style would that be? Under Razor, Mo'unga's won 6 consecutive titles by playing intelligent pragmatic, structured rugby in the play-offs. They only reserve the helter-skelter headless Ian Foster style rugby for the Australian fixtures...
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Compare the quality of the tight 5s in the 2022 Super Rugby final and you can see where the game was won and lost.
@KiwiMurph how about the semi-final where Chiefs' All Black forward pack were all over Crusaders however couldn't manage to convert any of that dominance into points?
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@KiwiMurph how about the semi-final where Chiefs' All Black forward pack were all over Crusaders however couldn't manage to convert any of that dominance into points?
@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@KiwiMurph how about the semi-final where Chiefs' All Black forward pack were all over Crusaders however couldn't manage to convert any of that dominance into points?
Yep - hence why only Tupaea of that Chiefs backline made the initial ABs squad
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If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
Blame the competition instead, perhaps? Unless it produces the best right for its audience (not that I would say it does)
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@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@KiwiMurph how about the semi-final where Chiefs' All Black forward pack were all over Crusaders however couldn't manage to convert any of that dominance into points?
Yep - hence why only Tupaea of that Chiefs backline made the initial ABs squad
@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@KiwiMurph how about the semi-final where Chiefs' All Black forward pack were all over Crusaders however couldn't manage to convert any of that dominance into points?
Yep - hence why only Tupaea of that Chiefs backline made the initial ABs squad
And Tupaea blew an easy try in that game, if the Chiefs had a mental weakness causing them to blow easy opportunities then their coaches must also share some blame, since coaches have a massive influence on the player's psychology & mental state, perhaps their preparation wasn't good enough in that area...
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Compare the quality of the tight 5s in the 2022 Super Rugby final and you can see where the game was won and lost.
@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Compare the quality of the tight 5s in the 2022 Super Rugby final and you can see where the game was won and lost.
Ah yes, the tired "Rolls-Royce pack" fallacy.
The Crusaders had 2 regular starting All Blacks forwards, Whitelock & Barrett in 2022.
Taylor, Bower in the wider squad but aren't proper int. quality. Both the Blues & Cheifs have more forwards than Crusaders in All Black's setup, yet the anti-Mo'unga/Razor brigade continue to peddle misinformation in attempt to downplay their achievements.
Truth is, Razor gets the absolute most out of his players, especially Mo'unga, I certainly can't wait until he's All Blacks coach after this Foster debacle ends.
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If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
Robertson, last time I checked, is preparing him for Super Rugby, not Test footy.
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@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
Robertson, last time I checked, is preparing him for Super Rugby, not Test footy.
@Frank True, and last time I looked Mounga was bloody great super No 10, but just generally average at test level. At super level you have super level defences, quite some different to test level. And anyone who thinks Dan Carter , Richie McCaw etc were great test players is because Henry and Hansen explained to them how to play game are unerestimating what makes a great player.
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@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
Robertson, last time I checked, is preparing him for Super Rugby, not Test footy.
@Frank said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
Robertson, last time I checked, is preparing him for Super Rugby, not Test footy.
True, given Robertson doesn't have any real experience at test level, do you think he'll be able to adjust his gameplan to have immediate success at that level? Or do we accept that he'll have a bit of a learning curve when he first takes the reigns?
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@Frank said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
Robertson, last time I checked, is preparing him for Super Rugby, not Test footy.
True, given Robertson doesn't have any real experience at test level, do you think he'll be able to adjust his gameplan to have immediate success at that level? Or do we accept that he'll have a bit of a learning curve when he first takes the reigns?
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Frank said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:
If we're going to blame coaches for Mo'unga's struggles at test level, maybe we could point the finger at Robertson for having him focus on playing a style that is not conducive to test footy at Super level.
Robertson, last time I checked, is preparing him for Super Rugby, not Test footy.
True, given Robertson doesn't have any real experience at test level, do you think he'll be able to adjust his gameplan to have immediate success at that level? Or do we accept that he'll have a bit of a learning curve when he first takes the reigns?
No idea mate.
