Foster, Robertson etc
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@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Sorry to resurrect this thread but I can't help but think Sir Steve Hansen is biased towards Foster:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-sir-steve-hansen-labels-jordie-barrett-as-the-biggest-all-blacks-positive-of-2022/QIN2RWVNBBALRHN7O75UEIXWMA/“They were tough decisions that had to be made but were made by Ian and the ship has turned itself around and I think they go into the World Cup with quite a bit of excitement,” Hansen said.Tell me if I am wrong but those (coaching) changes were forced on Foster. So being "made by Ian" is a rewriting.
I agree with his excitement about Jordie at 12 though. But I'd also have mentioned the improvement in the forwards.
Yup many of great finds have been forced, jordie was particularly egregious. Every man and his dog was calling for him at 12, and multiple times foster said we see him as a fullback. Injury enforced start at 12 that went rather well, Nek minute Foster's claiming it was always the plan. Yeah right
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@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
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@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
Canes4life and me among others as well
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@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
@Chris Hey I was one who wanted him tried (about 3 years ago, but Canes wouldn't even really give him a go there), but I restate what I said , hardly every man and his dog which I was replying to. I know I got shouted down when I suggested it on at least one forum. Mind you I wasn't over the top, just wondered if he would be an option to look at, think on at least one forum I was just blasted as a Canes man etc etc.
I actually think if we read enough forums or even threads we will find a few suggesting any number of players, hey it's why we come on forums, noone actually has to stand by what they say or suggest. And it's all good. -
@Chris Hey I was one who wanted him tried (about 3 years ago, but Canes wouldn't even really give him a go there), but I restate what I said , hardly every man and his dog which I was replying to. I know I got shouted down when I suggested it on at least one forum. Mind you I wasn't over the top, just wondered if he would be an option to look at, think on at least one forum I was just blasted as a Canes man etc etc.
I actually think if we read enough forums or even threads we will find a few suggesting any number of players, hey it's why we come on forums, noone actually has to stand by what they say or suggest. And it's all good.@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris Hey I was one who wanted him tried (about 3 years ago, but Canes wouldn't even really give him a go there), but I restate what I said , hardly every man and his dog which I was replying to. I know I got shouted down when I suggested it on at least one forum. Mind you I wasn't over the top, just wondered if he would be an option to look at, think on at least one forum I was just blasted as a Canes man etc etc.
I actually think if we read enough forums or even threads we will find a few suggesting any number of players, hey it's why we come on forums, noone actually has to stand by what they say or suggest. And it's all good.Not bagging you mate just mentioning its been talked about on this forum by a few people for quite some time.Maybe this is a more intelligent forum that most with a lot of people with great ideas.WAIT A MINUTE what am I saying FFS its the Fern.
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
4 years in fact
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@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
4 years in fact
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
4 years in fact
You built a poolroom around this framed screenshot, didn't you?!
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
4 years in fact
You built a poolroom around this framed screenshot, didn't you?!
@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
4 years in fact
You built a poolroom around this framed screenshot, didn't you?!
I want to find my post where I predicted David Tua would knock out Shane Cameron by the second round
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@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
4 years in fact
You built a poolroom around this framed screenshot, didn't you?!
I want to find my post where I predicted David Tua would knock out Shane Cameron by the second round
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
4 years in fact
You built a poolroom around this framed screenshot, didn't you?!
@nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants Geez I don't recall hearing or reading everyone calling for Jordie at 12, in fact on a couple of forums I saw plenty rubbish idea.
On this forum there were quite few calling for Jordie to be at 12 as far back as 2021 as I remember.
Far before that @Rancid-Schnitzel
4 years in fact
You built a poolroom around this framed screenshot, didn't you?!
Just to add regards that second bit about Laumape-some people [not here of course] have recently been bagging him for looking good against the Japanese. That's better than some of the ABs!
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Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants. -
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants.@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants.I'd go the other way.
A successful World Cup would have been Foster's best chance of reappointment.
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants.I'd go the other way.
A successful World Cup would have been Foster's best chance of reappointment.
@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants.I'd go the other way.
A successful World Cup would have been Foster's best chance of reappointment.
If they announce his successor it may add something to our chances because the players will want to try and send him off in style
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants.I'd go the other way.
A successful World Cup would have been Foster's best chance of reappointment.
@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants.I'd go the other way.
A successful World Cup would have been Foster's best chance of reappointment.
I am hoping your way is correct,But I don't trust the NZR board.
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@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants.I'd go the other way.
A successful World Cup would have been Foster's best chance of reappointment.
If they announce his successor it may add something to our chances because the players will want to try and send him off in style
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Reckon not even the NZR are that incompetent they'd give Fozzie 4 more years. But what about Fozzie having enough and not seeking reappointment? Cushy jobs overseas waiting.....
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Another article from today, mainly from Stewart Mitchell's perspective.
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@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants.@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2022:
Paywalled but is it always this early before the world cup?
No it's always after the WC early the next year, interesting it maybe pre world cup.
I suppose a way to give Foster 4 more years , I suppose they can't dump him if he hasn't failed at the WC, if he has been reappointed on what he has done so far it must be good enough to keep going if he wants.There's a big difference between giving someone embedded in the group a last year to improve after being within days of being sacked, and saying that performance is good enough for the next four years and not giving someone else a go. Foster is gone after the world cup, no way he is going to stay. The reason they are starting the process early is because they don't have foster mark 2 ready to take to coach, they need to catch the best coaches ASAP. Being left with whomever Scotland didn't want is not good
