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  • WingerW Winger

    @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

    If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

    Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

    He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

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    @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

    If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

    Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

    He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

    How many times did they play Bridge after his injuries or Jordie on the wing? He looked like he had a case of nerves, Leceister might be worth another look.

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    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

      @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

      Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

      He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

      How many times did they play Bridge after his injuries or Jordie on the wing? He looked like he had a case of nerves, Leceister might be worth another look.

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      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

      Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

      He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

      How many times did they play Bridge after his injuries or Jordie on the wing? He looked like he had a case of nerves, he might be worth another look.

      Definitely. But unless he plays brilliant rugby game after game, I would leave him until next year. With maybe Robertson as his AB coach

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      • WingerW Winger

        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

        Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

        He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

        How many times did they play Bridge after his injuries or Jordie on the wing? He looked like he had a case of nerves, he might be worth another look.

        Definitely. But unless he plays brilliant rugby game after game, I would leave him until next year. With maybe Robertson as his AB coach

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        @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

        Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

        He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

        How many times did they play Bridge after his injuries or Jordie on the wing? He looked like he had a case of nerves, he might be worth another look.

        Definitely. But unless he plays brilliant rugby game after game, I would leave him until next year. With maybe Robertson as his AB coach

        yup. I'm not saying he is first in line either. I suspect we'll see some interesting new backline be it JJ or Razor (not sure who else is applying).

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        • WingerW Winger

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

          Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

          He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

          How many times did they play Bridge after his injuries or Jordie on the wing? He looked like he had a case of nerves, he might be worth another look.

          Definitely. But unless he plays brilliant rugby game after game, I would leave him until next year. With maybe Robertson as his AB coach

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          @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

          Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

          He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

          How many times did they play Bridge after his injuries or Jordie on the wing? He looked like he had a case of nerves, he might be worth another look.

          Definitely. But unless he plays brilliant rugby game after game, I would leave him until next year. With maybe Robertson as his AB coach

          thats fair

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            Kicks, attacks, vision...Could Roigard in a future AB team be a backup 10?

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              Kicks, attacks, vision...Could Roigard in a future AB team be a backup 10?

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              @nostrildamus https://www.rugbypass.com/news/this-kid-dallas-mcleod-is-all-black-material/?fbclid=IwAR0TfhHibh0lMlehyPDnGa0Da2vNLmcOqEuy1UbryzrofV-SVyTHHboAa04

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                Kicks, attacks, vision...Could Roigard in a future AB team be a backup 10?

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                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                Kicks, attacks, vision...Could Roigard in a future AB team be a backup 10?

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/sport/103703136/cameron-roigard-comfortable-at-halfback-but-looks-good-at-firstfive-too

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                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/hurricanes-star-emerges-as-potential-rwc-bolter/

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                    @nostrildamus https://www.rugbypass.com/news/this-kid-dallas-mcleod-is-all-black-material/?fbclid=IwAR0TfhHibh0lMlehyPDnGa0Da2vNLmcOqEuy1UbryzrofV-SVyTHHboAa04

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                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                    @nostrildamus https://www.rugbypass.com/news/this-kid-dallas-mcleod-is-all-black-material/?fbclid=IwAR0TfhHibh0lMlehyPDnGa0Da2vNLmcOqEuy1UbryzrofV-SVyTHHboAa04

                    One of the few games in which McLeod didn't look out of his depth and he is being mentioned in the same breath as the ABs? He has got a long way to go.

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                    • mikedogzM mikedogz

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                      Kicks, attacks, vision...Could Roigard in a future AB team be a backup 10?

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/sport/103703136/cameron-roigard-comfortable-at-halfback-but-looks-good-at-firstfive-too

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                      @mikedogz He seems to have a really good kicking game which is not just box kicking. Hopefully he gets some gametime at 10 before the end of the season.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                        @nostrildamus https://www.rugbypass.com/news/this-kid-dallas-mcleod-is-all-black-material/?fbclid=IwAR0TfhHibh0lMlehyPDnGa0Da2vNLmcOqEuy1UbryzrofV-SVyTHHboAa04

                        One of the few games in which McLeod didn't look out of his depth and he is being mentioned in the same breath as the ABs? He has got a long way to go.

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                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                        @nostrildamus https://www.rugbypass.com/news/this-kid-dallas-mcleod-is-all-black-material/?fbclid=IwAR0TfhHibh0lMlehyPDnGa0Da2vNLmcOqEuy1UbryzrofV-SVyTHHboAa04

                        One of the few games in which McLeod didn't look out of his depth and he is being mentioned in the same breath as the ABs? He has got a long way to go.

                        Yeah it's a bit weird eh, granted he went well but it's the only noticeable (in a good way) game he's played at super level. Slim pickings I guess but I find it strange he's being hyped in a few articles when he's not exactly shone before.

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                        • mikedogzM mikedogz

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                          Kicks, attacks, vision...Could Roigard in a future AB team be a backup 10?

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/sport/103703136/cameron-roigard-comfortable-at-halfback-but-looks-good-at-firstfive-too

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                          @mikedogz said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                          Kicks, attacks, vision...Could Roigard in a future AB team be a backup 10?

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/sport/103703136/cameron-roigard-comfortable-at-halfback-but-looks-good-at-firstfive-too

                          BTW, that is Samipeni Finau directly behind Roigard at the breakdown in the third photo of that article.

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                            If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

                            Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

                            He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

                            i didnt think we really saw enough of him with the AB's to judge

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                            @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                            If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

                            Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

                            He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

                            i didnt think we really saw enough of him with the AB's to judge

                            The was mention in an article that he had a terrible time with the squad. Anyone know what that was about? He had enough Saders team mates around him for support and no one else has mentioned problems in the camp.

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                            • WingerW Winger

                              @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

                              Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

                              He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

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                              @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

                              Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

                              He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

                              Actually, he had a really strong debut against Ireland. I recall that I'd warned y'all that he wasn't test ready and I got a couple of little claps back on that. ๐Ÿ™‚

                              Second test he was poor, got a yellow card, subbed - and never seen again.

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                                Given the licorice all sorts approach to the loose forward trio selection maybe Hugh Renton stands a chance?

                                Been very solid in a Highlanders team that in all due respect has struggled and we all know Gus won't make the AB's this year - leaves a gap at 8.

                                The only other option is Stevenson - but that's been talked to death already.

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                                • Windows97W Windows97

                                  Given the licorice all sorts approach to the loose forward trio selection maybe Hugh Renton stands a chance?

                                  Been very solid in a Highlanders team that in all due respect has struggled and we all know Gus won't make the AB's this year - leaves a gap at 8.

                                  The only other option is Stevenson - but that's been talked to death already.

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                                  @Windows97 MMT would have to be ahead, even after an injury niggle

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

                                    Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

                                    He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

                                    Actually, he had a really strong debut against Ireland. I recall that I'd warned y'all that he wasn't test ready and I got a couple of little claps back on that. ๐Ÿ™‚

                                    Second test he was poor, got a yellow card, subbed - and never seen again.

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                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

                                    Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

                                    He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

                                    Actually, he had a really strong debut against Ireland. I recall that I'd warned y'all that he wasn't test ready and I got a couple of little claps back on that. ๐Ÿ™‚

                                    Second test he was poor, got a yellow card, subbed - and never seen again.

                                    do you think he will be test ready at RWC time?

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @Windows97 MMT would have to be ahead, even after an injury niggle

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                      @Windows97 MMT would have to be ahead, even after an injury niggle

                                      Plays 8/6? So competing against Akira and maybe Sotutu?

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                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        @Windows97 MMT would have to be ahead, even after an injury niggle

                                        Plays 8/6? So competing against Akira and maybe Sotutu?

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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        @Windows97 MMT would have to be ahead, even after an injury niggle

                                        Plays 8/6? So competing against Akira and maybe Sotutu?

                                        was only meaning over renton

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

                                          Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

                                          He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

                                          Actually, he had a really strong debut against Ireland. I recall that I'd warned y'all that he wasn't test ready and I got a couple of little claps back on that. ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          Second test he was poor, got a yellow card, subbed - and never seen again.

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                                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @Winger said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          If we're honest with ourselves there's only two standouts so far; Roigard and Stevenson. Others are playing well, but not at a level that screams "pick me for the All Blacks".

                                          Lester F needs to back up that last game and he may be given another go. A player that can play midfield and wing is valuable in a RWC squad especially for minnow games.

                                          He was so disappointing though in the AB's. Maybe SR is his level

                                          Actually, he had a really strong debut against Ireland. I recall that I'd warned y'all that he wasn't test ready and I got a couple of little claps back on that. ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          Second test he was poor, got a yellow card, subbed - and never seen again.

                                          22 years old and thrown in as a starter against our main rival at the moment, I didnโ€™t have high expectations but thought he did pretty well.

                                          Been quite a few young players that have had less than memorable tests for the ABs when starting out - some have been persisted with and remained in the squad and others have been replaced to find themselves back in the ABs a year or two later (and thereafter remain)

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