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All Blacks 2023

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  • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

    DMac doesn't lack for courage on D either. Throws himself about and not afraid to put his body on the line. Good to see.

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      I agree with reason, I feel dirty. Obviously he over eggs it, but still correct

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300909577/mark-reason-ian-fosters-all-blacks-selection-snub-that-defies-belief

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      • K kev

        @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

        @cgrant said in All Blacks 2023:

        Am I the only one to find Newell lucky ?
        The guy has not played a single game this year and gets in. Jager would have been a better choice IMO.

        They must have the inside deck on his injury.

        Any young fella who can go to South Africa
        and push the bomb squads heads up their own arses has credit in the bank.

        Such a specialist position they want him in around the squad for the year. I imagine his name is already in pen for the RWC.

        Ryan has been working with him for years in Canterbury.

        As an aside. The interview his father gave when his boy was selected is one of the most “hit you in the feels” things I’ve ever seen. I welled up watching it.

        Watched a podcast from the AB trainer who in a long conversation only mentioned two guys as athletes - Reiko and Newell. I think they rate him very highly.

        He also said McCaw was slow and weak 🙄…but kept going in the last 20 when others faded.

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        @kev did they actually use the term weak?

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          I'm avoiding interviews with Fozzie as I don't want to increase my blood pressure meds, but has there been any mention of why Zarn Sullivan can't even make the NZXV?

          I find it completely bonkers that the two best long kickers in NZ SS and ZS can't get a look in at the two levels they should be at. Our only big boot is the erratic JB who will be in the midfield.

          Also, it's very weird that Aumua signs with NZR and then gets left out completely for a guy who has signed for overseas. Maybe he's a Razor pick for next year, the new Bunce/Smokin Joe?

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            What a day, now agreeing with Gregor

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-all-blacks-omission-that-could-come-back-to-haunt-ian-foster-gregor-paul/J6WSZ7D54ZENFMOWGGTCIL4QGY/
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              Not sure whether this has already been posted. Interview with Jason Ryan

              https://open.spotify.com/episode/2pdVLfQl3iz0NB82DoC3rY?si=Max-vxWwTiemfyWs6E7-LA

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks 2023:

                DMac doesn't lack for courage on D either. Throws himself about and not afraid to put his body on the line. Good to see.

                It's his technique which is great to watch.

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

                @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks 2023:

                DMac doesn't lack for courage on D either. Throws himself about and not afraid to put his body on the line. Good to see.

                It's his technique which is great to watch.

                Clear penalty to Fiji.

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks 2023:

                  DMac doesn't lack for courage on D either. Throws himself about and not afraid to put his body on the line. Good to see.

                  It's his technique which is great to watch.

                  Clear penalty to Fiji.

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                  @antipodean straight on his hands, no clear lift

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    I'm avoiding interviews with Fozzie as I don't want to increase my blood pressure meds, but has there been any mention of why Zarn Sullivan can't even make the NZXV?

                    I find it completely bonkers that the two best long kickers in NZ SS and ZS can't get a look in at the two levels they should be at. Our only big boot is the erratic JB who will be in the midfield.

                    Also, it's very weird that Aumua signs with NZR and then gets left out completely for a guy who has signed for overseas. Maybe he's a Razor pick for next year, the new Bunce/Smokin Joe?

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                    @Nepia The wrong thread to discuss, but Zarn looks to have missed out to Gilbert in the AB XV squad as one of the fullbacks. Love has been selected on last year's form, and how he played for the AB XV.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Nepia The wrong thread to discuss, but Zarn looks to have missed out to Gilbert in the AB XV squad as one of the fullbacks. Love has been selected on last year's form, and how he played for the AB XV.

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                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @Nepia The wrong thread to discuss, but Zarn looks to have missed out to Gilbert in the AB XV squad as one of the fullbacks. Love has been selected on last year's form, and how he played for the AB XV.

                      Zarn was eye catching for the Maori. How he and Sotutu are rated 5th best (or worse) in the country in their positions is beyond me.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @Nepia The wrong thread to discuss, but Zarn looks to have missed out to Gilbert in the AB XV squad as one of the fullbacks. Love has been selected on last year's form, and how he played for the AB XV.

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                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @Nepia The wrong thread to discuss, but Zarn looks to have missed out to Gilbert in the AB XV squad as one of the fullbacks. Love has been selected on last year's form, and how he played for the AB XV.

                        Cheers. The thumbs up, like, or whatever we call it is for providing the info not for the content of the info itself. 😉

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          I'm avoiding interviews with Fozzie as I don't want to increase my blood pressure meds, but has there been any mention of why Zarn Sullivan can't even make the NZXV?

                          I find it completely bonkers that the two best long kickers in NZ SS and ZS can't get a look in at the two levels they should be at. Our only big boot is the erratic JB who will be in the midfield.

                          Also, it's very weird that Aumua signs with NZR and then gets left out completely for a guy who has signed for overseas. Maybe he's a Razor pick for next year, the new Bunce/Smokin Joe?

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                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:

                          I find it completely bonkers that the two best long kickers in NZ SS and ZS can't get a look in at the two levels they should be at. Our only big boot is the erratic JB who will be in the midfield.

                          I agree completely - obviously the plan is to keep the ball in hand and run it out of our own half with scintillating line-breaks and tries because, you know - history has taught us that style of play works out tops in the knock-out stages of the RWC.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            Copied from the "Feed the backs" instagram, because embed doesn't work anymore:

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                            feedthebacks For the stats nerds out there 😏🇳🇿

                            Stats via @allblacks and @crusadersrugbyteam

                            For those interested, the lightest ever All Blacks weighed 58.9kg (there were 3 of them: Merv Corner, Harry Nicholls and Alan Reid)

                            Including these comments:

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                            @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                            Copied from the "Feed the backs" instagram, because embed doesn't work anymore:

                            c34dfbda-1561-4b45-a546-dcd155de1c00-image.png

                            feedthebacks For the stats nerds out there 😏🇳🇿

                            Stats via @allblacks and @crusadersrugbyteam

                            For those interested, the lightest ever All Blacks weighed 58.9kg (there were 3 of them: Merv Corner, Harry Nicholls and Alan Reid)

                            Including these comments:

                            8d035a51-44b1-4249-86ac-7b059fb362d5-image.png

                            I think they forgot Ben Afeaki in their list.

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                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Copied from the "Feed the backs" instagram, because embed doesn't work anymore:

                              c34dfbda-1561-4b45-a546-dcd155de1c00-image.png

                              feedthebacks For the stats nerds out there 😏🇳🇿

                              Stats via @allblacks and @crusadersrugbyteam

                              For those interested, the lightest ever All Blacks weighed 58.9kg (there were 3 of them: Merv Corner, Harry Nicholls and Alan Reid)

                              Including these comments:

                              8d035a51-44b1-4249-86ac-7b059fb362d5-image.png

                              I think they forgot Ben Afeaki in their list.

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                              @cgrant Afeaki's All Blacks profile says 124kg. Maybe he was heavier at some point, but probably not when he played that test match.

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                                Chiefs and Crusaders players picked in the squad will join the All Blacks camp next week, meanwhile, Chiefs outside back Shaun Stevenson had been named as injury cover for the Blues’ Mark Telea.

                                Foster said Telea had a strained knee and the team had been told he could be out for four weeks, but he would be reassessed in the coming weeks.

                                Foster said it was “not a major strain”.

                                Blues prop Nepo Laulala was not with the squad due to the birth of a child and the team had brought in Tevita Mafileo, Asafo Aumua and Stephen Perofeta to boost their numbers in the meantime.

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                                  This is the article that quote is from:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby-pacific-final-all-blacks-coach-ian-foster-excited-for-chiefs-and-crusaders-clash/3P2VBDBX5JBQHKVA5FFKO72BSE/

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                                  • MN5M Online
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                                    Would need Red Beard or Bart to confirm but he doesn’t look like a “good” 140kg if you know what I mean. Hopefully he actually is.

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                                      Would need Red Beard or Bart to confirm but he doesn’t look like a “good” 140kg if you know what I mean. Hopefully he actually is.

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                                      @MN5 really? He looks a helluva lot better than a Tamiefuna type 140kg.

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                                        For an up and down year, I don't see why selectors still wouldn't want this in their team and to see if they can fix any failings.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          For an up and down year, I don't see why selectors still wouldn't want this in their team and to see if they can fix any failings.

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                                          @Bones I wonder if Sotutu's numbers were bolstered by carving up the bottom half of Super Rugby as opposed to the other semi finalists (who the Blues went 0-5 against).

                                          I don't think J Ryan rates him particularly highly.

                                          There's been the odd spark for the ABs but overall I think Hoskins has disappointed at test level given the initial promise of his 2020 Super form.

                                          It's a shame as he's a remarkably skilful player but I'm just not sure his game translates to test level.

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