All Blacks 2023
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@frugby Yes, but you made the comment in relation to a "backdoor entrance", so a spot in the RWC squad. And that's unlikely to happen for the reasons I mentioned.
Once again, did you read what I said? If they have now decided they want a hard ball-carrier, then it is entirely possible they opt for Tupaea over Havili - which would be a backdoor entrance into the World Cup squad.
You're disputing the likelihood of the overall scenario, not the statement. I literally have said several times I think Havili will go to the World Cup, I'm just suggesting another possibility.
If you are debating the merits of Havili with Stargazer, you should put in it your schedule as you’ll be here for a while.
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Given the way we play, Havili doesn't fit at 12. He's not in the running as centre. Doesn't play wing and never plays fullback, where he may have been able to make a case over the last few years.
But even there he's behind the obvious targets.
TBH I'm not thrilled with taking any player that's been in rehab more than they've played minutes on the field this year.
Except Lord.
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Of the current midfielders in the squad, and with a realistic chance of going to France (so not McLeod), Ennor might have the physicality to replicate JB.
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@Machpants World Cup team is being named on Monday.
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@Machpants World Cup team is being named on Monday.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants World Cup team is being named on Monday.
I know, just ABs media being shit again
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Given the way we play, Havili doesn't fit at 12. He's not in the running as centre. Doesn't play wing and never plays fullback, where he may have been able to make a case over the last few years.
But even there he's behind the obvious targets.
TBH I'm not thrilled with taking any player that's been in rehab more than they've played minutes on the field this year.
Except Lord.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:
Given the way we play, Havili doesn't fit at 12. He's not in the running as centre. Doesn't play wing and never plays fullback, where he may have been able to make a case over the last few years.
But even there he's behind the obvious targets.
TBH I'm not thrilled with taking any player that's been in rehab more than they've played minutes on the field this year.
Except Lord.
Dave's alright on your last point. He appears to have played nine times for the Crusaders this year.
Thing is - if you don't take Dave who are you going to take?
They're not going to take someone who's never played before - so the likes of Nankivell and, unless he has an absolute blinder on Saturday, McLeod.
Tupaea hasn't played in a year - may have his first start this weekend, but Dave was generally preferred to Quinn when they were both fit.
Goodhue hasn't played for the ABs for nearly three years and there's an obvious issue with his speed. I'd be happy enough with him, though.
Or Ennor. If Dave gives you the heebie-jeebies when he's playing, you must shit your pants with Braydon. He makes me very, very nervous.
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This is pretty cool.
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@Bovidae Georgia is 11th which means the Aus, Wales, Fiji, Georgia pool will be competitive....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bovidae Georgia is 11th which means the Aus, Wales, Fiji, Georgia pool will be competitive....
Come RWC time we could easily be 11th
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The social media.post the ABs put up today asking the squad if they would rather run it straight at Kaino or tackle Jonah in full flight was pretty good
Question should have been running it straight at Jerry
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ALB is the next midfield option after JB and Ioane. He covers both 12 and 13, which neither Havili or Ennor do. When you look at all of the other fullback options in the squad, Havili's utility value is limited. That said, he's probably ahead of Ennor in their pecking order of backup players.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:
ALB is the next midfield option after JB and Ioane. He covers both 12 and 13, which neither Havili or Ennor do
Plus he is v. experienced. Valuable in a knock-out tournament
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So the jeopardy, McCaw needs to travel to France
Former All Blacks captain Richie McCaw continues to be on the fringes of the squad, which will train in Christchurch for the majority of the week, due to the FIFA Women's World Cup teams having first crack at the facilities in Dunedin.
"Then you have got Ricko walking around there in the hotel, he is keeping us on edge I think,'' hooker Codie Taylor said. "Just to have his presence there, it shows what it means to be an All Black.''
That's good to hear.
Went to a sports lunch pre RWC2015 where Fitzy was speaking. Mentioned he had met regularly with the team on the previous EOYT and was hooking up with them during the tournament.
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Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho
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Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho
It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.
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My strong money is on Havili, assuming he is fit.
Foster drops nobody. Not for form, not for a better mix, not to change the style of play. You only leave the Foster team or squad because you are injured or retire.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2023:
Foster drops nobody. Not for form, not for a better mix, not to change the style of play.
Shannon Frizzell & Codie Taylor say "Hi".
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho
It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho
It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.
They are selling them at the local mall here. They look like shit and are made of shit material, but I saw a bunch of kids looking at them and one purchase.
Since the Jersey and the shirts are different, my care factor is exactly zero.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho
It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho
It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.
It's totally obvious on the RWC jerseys, looks crap as fuck. One was in the window in a shop, you could see the snail trails from across the street :face_vomiting:
Can't see it on the jersey they are wearing now, as it doesn't have it. Only RWC stuff
