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All Blacks 2023

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    Given the way we play, Havili doesn't fit at 12. He's not in the running as centre. Doesn't play wing and never plays fullback, where he may have been able to make a case over the last few years.

    But even there he's behind the obvious targets.

    TBH I'm not thrilled with taking any player that's been in rehab more than they've played minutes on the field this year.

    Except Lord.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

    Given the way we play, Havili doesn't fit at 12. He's not in the running as centre. Doesn't play wing and never plays fullback, where he may have been able to make a case over the last few years.

    But even there he's behind the obvious targets.

    TBH I'm not thrilled with taking any player that's been in rehab more than they've played minutes on the field this year.

    Except Lord.

    Dave's alright on your last point. He appears to have played nine times for the Crusaders this year.

    Thing is - if you don't take Dave who are you going to take?

    They're not going to take someone who's never played before - so the likes of Nankivell and, unless he has an absolute blinder on Saturday, McLeod.

    Tupaea hasn't played in a year - may have his first start this weekend, but Dave was generally preferred to Quinn when they were both fit.

    Goodhue hasn't played for the ABs for nearly three years and there's an obvious issue with his speed. I'd be happy enough with him, though.

    Or Ennor. If Dave gives you the heebie-jeebies when he's playing, you must shit your pants with Braydon. He makes me very, very nervous.

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    • G george33

      @canefan Goodhew has been told already that AB selectors have no interest in him

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      @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

      @canefan Goodhew has been told already that AB selectors have no interest in him

      A shame. A potentially very good AB career blighted by injuries

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        This is pretty cool.

        https://twitter.com/FlyAirNZ/status/1686460020341514240

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          https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1686633177123893248

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            A time as well, ABs media over achieving!

            No channel or location, but hey, good start

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Bovidae Georgia is 11th which means the Aus, Wales, Fiji, Georgia pool will be competitive....

              64010a58-b715-4d9d-a5a1-ed546db05816-image.png

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              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:

              @Bovidae Georgia is 11th which means the Aus, Wales, Fiji, Georgia pool will be competitive....

              64010a58-b715-4d9d-a5a1-ed546db05816-image.png

              Come RWC time we could easily be 11th

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                The social media.post the ABs put up today asking the squad if they would rather run it straight at Kaino or tackle Jonah in full flight was pretty good

                Question should have been running it straight at Jerry

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  ALB is the next midfield option after JB and Ioane. He covers both 12 and 13, which neither Havili or Ennor do. When you look at all of the other fullback options in the squad, Havili's utility value is limited. That said, he's probably ahead of Ennor in their pecking order of backup players.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                  ALB is the next midfield option after JB and Ioane. He covers both 12 and 13, which neither Havili or Ennor do

                  Plus he is v. experienced. Valuable in a knock-out tournament

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                  • M Machpants

                    So the jeopardy, McCaw needs to travel to France

                    Former All Blacks captain Richie McCaw continues to be on the fringes of the squad, which will train in Christchurch for the majority of the week, due to the FIFA Women's World Cup teams having first crack at the facilities in Dunedin.

                    "Then you have got Ricko walking around there in the hotel, he is keeping us on edge I think,'' hooker Codie Taylor said. "Just to have his presence there, it shows what it means to be an All Black.''

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                    @Machpants

                    That's good to hear.

                    Went to a sports lunch pre RWC2015 where Fitzy was speaking. Mentioned he had met regularly with the team on the previous EOYT and was hooking up with them during the tournament.

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                      Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

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                      • M Machpants

                        Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

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                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                        Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

                        It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.

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                        • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                          My strong money is on Havili, assuming he is fit.

                          Foster drops nobody. Not for form, not for a better mix, not to change the style of play. You only leave the Foster team or squad because you are injured or retire.

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                          @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2023:

                          Foster drops nobody. Not for form, not for a better mix, not to change the style of play.

                          Shannon Frizzell & Codie Taylor say "Hi".

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                            Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

                            It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                            Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

                            It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.

                            They are selling them at the local mall here. They look like shit and are made of shit material, but I saw a bunch of kids looking at them and one purchase.

                            Since the Jersey and the shirts are different, my care factor is exactly zero.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

                              It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

                              It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.

                              It's totally obvious on the RWC jerseys, looks crap as fuck. One was in the window in a shop, you could see the snail trails from across the street :face_vomiting:
                              Can't see it on the jersey they are wearing now, as it doesn't have it. Only RWC stuff

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                The social media.post the ABs put up today asking the squad if they would rather run it straight at Kaino or tackle Jonah in full flight was pretty good

                                Question should have been running it straight at Jerry

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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                The social media.post the ABs put up today asking the squad if they would rather run it straight at Kaino or tackle Jonah in full flight was pretty good

                                Question should have been running it straight at Jerry

                                Yeah I’d agree with that,

                                Jerry used to do something that was a bit unique at times , he would hit them first with the shoulder and then a slight pause while he seemed to hold them up and brace himself, then finish them with a body slam into the dirt .

                                Sometimes it was that secondary action that would make you cringe for the poor bastard on the receiving end 😁

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  Foster drops nobody. Not for form, not for a better mix, not to change the style of play.

                                  Shannon Frizzell & Codie Taylor say "Hi".

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew Are you arguing that Foster does drop players, or that he doesn't?

                                  Cody Taylor is back where he always was -- starting. Despite not being the best hooker in the country.

                                  Frizzell is back starting too. No-one has ever been preferred to him since he made his way in. The only chance he had of being taken out of the preferred 15 was for other old-timers, so Scott Barrett can be included.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

                                    It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.

                                    It's totally obvious on the RWC jerseys, looks crap as fuck. One was in the window in a shop, you could see the snail trails from across the street :face_vomiting:
                                    Can't see it on the jersey they are wearing now, as it doesn't have it. Only RWC stuff

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                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

                                    It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.

                                    It's totally obvious on the RWC jerseys, looks crap as fuck. One was in the window in a shop, you could see the snail trails from across the street :face_vomiting:
                                    Can't see it on the jersey they are wearing now, as it doesn't have it. Only RWC stuff

                                    the snail trail is definitely on their current jerseys, saw it on the weekend, i think theyre ones are a slightly different fabric or just not as obvious from a distance....but definitely saw it when close up on one of the players, Savea lifting the bledisloe for example

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

                                      It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.

                                      It's totally obvious on the RWC jerseys, looks crap as fuck. One was in the window in a shop, you could see the snail trails from across the street :face_vomiting:
                                      Can't see it on the jersey they are wearing now, as it doesn't have it. Only RWC stuff

                                      the snail trail is definitely on their current jerseys, saw it on the weekend, i think theyre ones are a slightly different fabric or just not as obvious from a distance....but definitely saw it when close up on one of the players, Savea lifting the bledisloe for example

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Man, I finally saw the snail trail fern jersey in the flesh this weekend, ugh, it is really obvious and looks childish and cheap. The jerseys they are wearing now don't have it on them, I just thought it was very subtle. Nope gopping, saving me some dosh tho

                                      It's obvious on the polo shirt and training top - it's not obvious at all on the actual jersey. Talk about a beat up over nothing.

                                      It's totally obvious on the RWC jerseys, looks crap as fuck. One was in the window in a shop, you could see the snail trails from across the street :face_vomiting:
                                      Can't see it on the jersey they are wearing now, as it doesn't have it. Only RWC stuff

                                      the snail trail is definitely on their current jerseys, saw it on the weekend, i think theyre ones are a slightly different fabric or just not as obvious from a distance....but definitely saw it when close up on one of the players, Savea lifting the bledisloe for example

                                      Oh OK, maybe it is just the replicas that have it so fucking disgustingly obvious

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                                        From the AB shop, looks about right

                                        image.png

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          From the AB shop, looks about right

                                          image.png

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                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          From the AB shop, looks about right

                                          image.png

                                          They brighten the patterns in the photos so you can see them.

                                          They don't show out that much in person.

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