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All Blacks 2023

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    The All Blacks account just posted this "highlights reel" of big Leicester on YouTube. Would they do that if he didn't make the squad? Or shouldn't we read anything into that post?

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    @Stargazer I doubt the media types are told early

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      The All Blacks account just posted this "highlights reel" of big Leicester on YouTube. Would they do that if he didn't make the squad? Or shouldn't we read anything into that post?

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      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

      The All Blacks account just posted this "highlights reel" of big Leicester on YouTube. Would they do that if he didn't make the squad? Or shouldn't we read anything into that post?

      It would be hard to leave Leicester out after that. From what I’ve seen so far I’d start Telea at 11. So if role for last spot is off bench, with LF’s versatility it could be Clarke who misses out.

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      • M Machpants

        @Stargazer I doubt the media types are told early

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        @Machpants The guy or gal pressing the "publish" button won't, but their media manager might. If you look at the social media in a week before a game, you can with a reasonable amount of certainty guess who'll be named. I may be wrong, but I don't think that's any different now. There's a lot of coordination going on. Wait and see.

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          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

          The All Blacks account just posted this "highlights reel" of big Leicester on YouTube. Would they do that if he didn't make the squad? Or shouldn't we read anything into that post?

          It would be hard to leave Leicester out after that. From what I’ve seen so far I’d start Telea at 11. So if role for last spot is off bench, with LF’s versatility it could be Clarke who misses out.

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          @pakman I think with Ennor out, his stocks just went up - and I was nodding along at the versatility from the bench bit - but then remembered the other bench guy is ALB so centre is already covered.

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            Did anyone else notice that DH appeared to have bulked up in the Mako$ game, seemed much bigger to me, perhaps he went hard on the protein shakes during his injury spell.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @African-Monkey he threw a really nice dummy at one stage and showed a surprising turn of pace to go through a gap, think almost got an offload away at the end? That's not going straight to ground.

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              @Bones he made about 2 meters on the run before going straight to ground. Woohoo. Nothing wrong with what he did on that play, but you're making it out to be a lot more than what it was on that play.

              As I said, he didn't fuck up when he came on, but he was hardly anything special when he came on at the same time. If that was Havili doing that, people would be ripping him out, similar to the LF v CC debate where if CC had dropped the ball over the line like LF did, the whole forum would have jumped on him.

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              • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                @Bones he made about 2 meters on the run before going straight to ground. Woohoo. Nothing wrong with what he did on that play, but you're making it out to be a lot more than what it was on that play.

                As I said, he didn't fuck up when he came on, but he was hardly anything special when he came on at the same time. If that was Havili doing that, people would be ripping him out, similar to the LF v CC debate where if CC had dropped the ball over the line like LF did, the whole forum would have jumped on him.

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                @African-Monkey With 4 runs for 1 metre, you might be right. That particular play just struck me as very Jordie. I'll have another watch of the game later to check.

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                  Asafo Aumua in a moon boot from a post on Instagram. Not sure the extent of the injury but it begs the question, if he’s out, who’s next in line if any of the current AB hookers go down?

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                    The serious point here is that AB backline functions best with a big body at 12, allowing the option of just trucking the ball up and resetting. Other than Jordie who can fill the bill?

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                      The serious point here is that AB backline functions best with a big body at 12, allowing the option of just trucking the ball up and resetting. Other than Jordie who can fill the bill?

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                      @pakman Ngani Laumape. 😁

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                        The serious point here is that AB backline functions best with a big body at 12, allowing the option of just trucking the ball up and resetting. Other than Jordie who can fill the bill?

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                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2023:

                        The serious point here is that AB backline functions best with a big body at 12, allowing the option of just trucking the ball up and resetting. Other than Jordie who can fill the bill?

                        You can see why they have some interest in Aumua.

                        TUG would be a good player for them to look at, if he is ever not injured for long enough.

                        More likely, Tupaea can do that role, but not with quite the same impact.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2023:

                          The serious point here is that AB backline functions best with a big body at 12, allowing the option of just trucking the ball up and resetting. Other than Jordie who can fill the bill?

                          You can see why they have some interest in Aumua.

                          TUG would be a good player for them to look at, if he is ever not injured for long enough.

                          More likely, Tupaea can do that role, but not with quite the same impact.

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                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:

                          TUG would be a good player for them to look at, if he is ever not injured for long enough.

                          A million miles from international quality. His defence is terrible.

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                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            TUG would be a good player for them to look at, if he is ever not injured for long enough.

                            A million miles from international quality. His defence is terrible.

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                            @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            TUG would be a good player for them to look at, if he is ever not injured for long enough.

                            A million miles from international quality. His defence is terrible.

                            Going down that road though, whose isn't?

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              Asafo Aumua in a moon boot from a post on Instagram. Not sure the extent of the injury but it begs the question, if he’s out, who’s next in line if any of the current AB hookers go down?

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Asafo Aumua in a moon boot from a post on Instagram. Not sure the extent of the injury but it begs the question, if he’s out, who’s next in line if any of the current AB hookers go down?

                              The 3 other hookers in the AB XV were Tyrone Thompson, Riccitelli and George Bell.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                TUG would be a good player for them to look at, if he is ever not injured for long enough.

                                A million miles from international quality. His defence is terrible.

                                Going down that road though, whose isn't?

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                TUG would be a good player for them to look at, if he is ever not injured for long enough.

                                A million miles from international quality. His defence is terrible.

                                Going down that road though, whose isn't?

                                I’d take Goodhue ahead of Havilli or McLeod. Did the Japan tour count for nothing: he was the stand out?

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                                • P pakman

                                  The serious point here is that AB backline functions best with a big body at 12, allowing the option of just trucking the ball up and resetting. Other than Jordie who can fill the bill?

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                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  The serious point here is that AB backline functions best with a big body at 12, allowing the option of just trucking the ball up and resetting. Other than Jordie who can fill the bill?

                                  There was a certain sizeable and older blues player but he may not have impressed them in his brief showing.

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                                    Speaking of utility midfielders, Nankivell? Not popular on here though it seems..

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      Speaking of utility midfielders, Nankivell? Not popular on here though it seems..

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                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Speaking of utility midfielders, Nankivell? Not popular on here though it seems..

                                      Too many rocks in the bag of diamonds. He needs to reduce his error rate.

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Speaking of utility midfielders, Nankivell? Not popular on here though it seems..

                                        Too many rocks in the bag of diamonds. He needs to reduce his error rate.

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                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Speaking of utility midfielders, Nankivell? Not popular on here though it seems..

                                        Too many rocks in the bag of diamonds. He needs to reduce his error rate.

                                        That's the thing though eh, every bloody 12 going either misses too many tackles, makes too many mistakes, doesn't make enough metres post contact or any combination.

                                        We really need to grab another fullback for the midfield. Come back Roger.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          Speaking of utility midfielders, Nankivell? Not popular on here though it seems..

                                          Too many rocks in the bag of diamonds. He needs to reduce his error rate.

                                          That's the thing though eh, every bloody 12 going either misses too many tackles, makes too many mistakes, doesn't make enough metres post contact or any combination.

                                          We really need to grab another fullback for the midfield. Come back Roger.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          Speaking of utility midfielders, Nankivell? Not popular on here though it seems..

                                          Too many rocks in the bag of diamonds. He needs to reduce his error rate.

                                          That's the thing though eh, every bloody 12 going either misses too many tackles, makes too many mistakes, doesn't make enough metres post contact or any combination.

                                          We really need to grab another fullback for the midfield. Come back Roger.

                                          Agreed.

                                          Some investments haven’t paid off (yet).

                                          Tupaea’s injury was a big one for starters and PUJ not kicking on hasn’t helped.

                                          I 100% agree that we don’t have an ideal person waiting, so we’ll need to develop their deficiencies.

                                          Given the growth in Rieko at 13, I think we can do that if we choose players who have the right base capability and build on the others that can be developed.

                                          In Rieko’s case, we have speed and are working on everything else. At 12, I would say it is gainline then everything else.

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