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All Blacks 2023

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  • M Machpants

    @voodoo Top four teams in that pool are all ranked very closely, that's probably not a good pool of death. But it will be hard to call

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

    @voodoo Top four teams in that pool are all ranked very closely, that's probably not a good pool of death. But it will be hard to call

    Pool of Lost Time Injury?

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @Kiwiwomble Why would you feel embarrassed by something that didn't happen (head contact)?

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      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

      @Kiwiwomble Why would you feel embarrassed by something that didn't happen (head contact)?

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

      @Kiwiwomble Why would you feel embarressed by something that didn't happen (head contact)?

      because no matter how some try to sugar coat this

      he dived pointed shoulder first at a player on the ground away from teh ball (it was in no way a "clean out") and it was good luck not good management that meant he missed the head. He still hit the base of the neck which is still dangerous and shitty.

      These two points are not incompatible.

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      • M Machpants

        I think i this is very relevant

        (Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.

        France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.

        (ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds

        https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/new-zealand-have-a-deeply-ingrained-knack-of-losing-their-discipline/

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        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

        I think i this is very relevant

        (Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.

        France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.

        (ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds

        https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/new-zealand-have-a-deeply-ingrained-knack-of-losing-their-discipline/

        Two words; absorbing tackle.

        Lies, damned lies and statistics.

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        • M Machpants

          I think i this is very relevant

          (Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.

          France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.

          (ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds

          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/new-zealand-have-a-deeply-ingrained-knack-of-losing-their-discipline/

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          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

          I think i this is very relevant

          (Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.

          France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.

          (ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds

          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/new-zealand-have-a-deeply-ingrained-knack-of-losing-their-discipline/

          So Ireland control World Rugby?

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          • boobooB booboo

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

            I think i this is very relevant

            (Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.

            France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.

            (ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds

            https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/new-zealand-have-a-deeply-ingrained-knack-of-losing-their-discipline/

            So Ireland control World Rugby?

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            @booboo said in All Blacks 2023:

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

            I think i this is very relevant

            (Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.

            France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.

            (ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds

            https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/new-zealand-have-a-deeply-ingrained-knack-of-losing-their-discipline/

            So Ireland control World Rugby?

            Lotsa Guinness in Dublin

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            • M Machpants

              I think i this is very relevant

              (Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.

              France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.

              (ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds

              https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/new-zealand-have-a-deeply-ingrained-knack-of-losing-their-discipline/

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              @Machpants I wonder how Australia ranks, I have a feeling they are as bad or worse than us. I don't have the stats but I assume teams that struggle get more cards due to defending more. Not sure.

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              • chimoausC chimoaus

                @Machpants I wonder how Australia ranks, I have a feeling they are as bad or worse than us. I don't have the stats but I assume teams that struggle get more cards due to defending more. Not sure.

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                @chimoaus and wasnt there a period where we were happy to play without the ball pressuring with our defence and then using our counter attack, now our defence isnt the weapon it used to be, and our counter attack isnt either.

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                • chimoausC chimoaus

                  @Machpants I wonder how Australia ranks, I have a feeling they are as bad or worse than us. I don't have the stats but I assume teams that struggle get more cards due to defending more. Not sure.

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                  @chimoaus thereโ€™s a very real probability the Wallabies given side of the draw that they are could go deeper than the All Blacks

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                  • chimoausC chimoaus

                    @Machpants I wonder how Australia ranks, I have a feeling they are as bad or worse than us. I don't have the stats but I assume teams that struggle get more cards due to defending more. Not sure.

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                    @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Machpants I wonder how Australia ranks, I have a feeling they are as bad or worse than us. I don't have the stats but I assume teams that struggle get more cards due to defending more. Not sure.

                    As to cards I don't think they were worse than us, but similar. However they are also shit when NOT getting cards

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                      #2528

                      So, who plays six against France, with Frizell injured? Barrett, Vaa'i, Jacobson, Papalii, or Cane?

                      Do we need a poll?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        So, who plays six against France, with Frizell injured? Barrett, Vaa'i, Jacobson, Papalii, or Cane?

                        Do we need a poll?

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                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                        So, who plays six against France, with Frizell injured? Barrett, Vaa'i, Jacobson, Papalii, or Cane?

                        Do we need a poll?

                        First two needed to cover lock. LJ wasn't effective against Boks, so Paps is last man standing?

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                        • TimT Tim

                          So, who plays six against France, with Frizell injured? Barrett, Vaa'i, Jacobson, Papalii, or Cane?

                          Do we need a poll?

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                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                          So, who plays six against France, with Frizell injured? Barrett, Vaa'i, Jacobson, Papalii, or Cane?

                          Do we need a poll?

                          Finau....... oh wait........

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                            Jordie was auditioning for the role by packing on the side of the scrum. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                              Fainga'anuku

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                Fainga'anuku

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                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                                Fainga'anuku

                                NOW the squad makes sense!

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                                  Barrett is an 80 minute player when he isn't getting carded, so if BBBR is fit then BBBR and SW at lock, SB at 6

                                  If there's a need to sub one of BBBR or SW then SB goes to lock and Vaa'i or Paps to 6

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Jordie was auditioning for the role by packing on the side of the scrum. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Jordie was auditioning for the role by packing on the side of the scrum. ๐Ÿ™‚

                                    Fozzie: NOT THAT BARRETT, THE OTHER ONE

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Jordie was auditioning for the role by packing on the side of the scrum. ๐Ÿ™‚

                                      Fozzie: NOT THAT BARRETT, THE OTHER ONE

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                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Jordie was auditioning for the role by packing on the side of the scrum. ๐Ÿ™‚

                                      Fozzie: NOT THAT BARRETT, THE OTHER ONE

                                      Beauden was auditioning for the role by packing on the side of the scrum -"Ok but do I have to get my shorts dirty?"

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                                      • S SBW1

                                        Really think we should have come over earlier and had an extra warmup game against Japan or one of the island nations or even played in Japan.

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                                        @SBW1 and risk losing to them? You know Foster would have played the E team.

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                                          66% of our red cards in the last 5 years apparently

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